first mapping attempt - the +mansion map thread

[ShipIt]

Amazing work you got there....

Thank you very much.

If you dont mind playing the map for a minute or two, I would like to get as much feedback as possible. There is still room for a lot of ideas. But be sure to be always up-to-date, as I am working on this all day long.

[Crystan]

Can i post some screens of your map on our indiedb profile?

[ShipIt]

Can i post some screens of your map on our indiedb profile?

Of course.

[ShipIt]

Some screenshots of how it looks like now.









Still a lot of work.

[MCR]

Great, but why is it not in master yet  ?

[Mattn]

very nice.

just one minor issue though - the boat looks a little bit too huge.

[ShipIt]

Great, but why is it not in master yet  ?

It is now.

Edit:It should be.

very nice.

just one minor issue though - the boat looks a little bit too huge.

Yeah you are right.

[ShipIt]

It looks like i hit another wall with my map.

This time it is called max_gl_textures. Now i am busy counting textures like a shepherd counts his sheep. This may take some time, as i hate it.

Wish me luck, please!

Edit : r_listimages 1 gives me 996 out of 1024 used. And there is no dropship on the map yet nor an ufo. Frustrating.

[Mattn]

counting textures? i can extend uforadiant to give you a texture overview. but this might take a few days, too

[ShipIt]

counting textures? i can extend uforadiant to give you a texture overview. but this might take a few days, too

Thanks. I have no idea how such a solution would look like, as UFORadiant never shows the whole map ?

I think I will make some kind of chart first, to see wich textures can be replaced by already used textures. I am this far now, that little problem will not stop me.
Also, if you could provide some suggestions how I can find out what causes the problems on the poolhouse (streched brushes). This would really help me to get over this.


@mattn I am sorry about crashing the mp yesterday. It looks like the map-get-scripts won´t work accordingly with python 3.x, wich was (i added this) not mentioned in the wiki. But i solved this and am ready to play whenever possible.

[MCR]

The problem is: You are not really able to count them, because the texture slots get filled with model (&other) textures dynamically during in-game play and I am not sure if they ever get released, when the caching of models option is turned on.

So the longer you play, the more texture slots will get filled. Model caching should be a feature, but unfortunately in combination with MAX_GL_TEXTURES it acts like a bug. 

Another funny thing is that we have virtual in-game limit of 1024 models per map (MAX_MAP_MODELS), which alone would use up ALL of our texture slots when really used... 

You can turn off model caching to free a lot of the texture slots...
So to avoid bugs during play in-game (also with other maps), we should rework model caching and limit the amount of cached models to a specified number if MAX_GL_TEXTURES = 1024 is to be set in stone.

Edit: The MAX_MAP_MODELS stuff is not true, because it stands for the total number of map models allowed, not the number of different models, so forget that one, please...

[Mattn]

@ShipIt: i will create a dialog for showing the textures and their count in the map. and maybe even the replace dialog right beside it. Just give a 2 days to finish it, i don't have much time these days.

[ShipIt]

@ShipIt: i will create a dialog for showing the textures and their count in the map. and maybe even the replace dialog right beside it. Just give a 2 days to finish it, i don't have much time these days.

I will take whatever i can get. 

[H-Hour]

It may help to think of your map thematically rather than realistically. In reality, everything has a different texture, but in a game you will often re-use textures a lot. Maybe you only need one type of floor tile, one type of wooden paneling. Maybe every chair in the house is the same kind.

From your perspective as a creator, who puts a lot of thought into the map, these things will stand out. But to a player who interacts with the objects generically (can I hide behind this? this looks like a kitchen area/living room/bathroom. Etc.) this kind of repetition is more acceptable.

[ShipIt]

It may help to think of your map thematically rather than realistically. In reality, everything has a different texture, but in a game you will often re-use textures a lot. Maybe you only need one type of floor tile, one type of wooden paneling. Maybe every chair in the house is the same kind.

From your perspective as a creator, who puts a lot of thought into the map, these things will stand out. But to a player who interacts with the objects generically (can I hide behind this? this looks like a kitchen area/living room/bathroom. Etc.) this kind of repetition is more acceptable.

Well, i can see your point. And this is the way to go for me with my map if it is the way you want to go with the game.

Edit : *maps