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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2010, 05:23:31 pm »
I hope you like the new look.
I have not changed any of the background graphics !

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2010, 12:16:05 am »
The * stands for submenu.
The + stands for special options worth changing & there is only max one 'special' option at the end of the submenu.
Just tested in r30039.
I really like the grouping :)
But I think we should get rid of those special characters.

'*': The indentation should be enough to indicate a 'group'. Also, the yellow falls out of the style imho. Maybe bold or highlighted text will do ?

'&': it didn't deliver any information to me, so just take it out.

'+': I didn't encounter any...

Anyway, good work so far :)

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2010, 06:05:13 am »
I don`t like «pseudographic» icons, since we have normal graphical ones. And if you use this symbols, use correct unicode, not -->> but ↠. But again, look to the icons and don`t make players more silly then they are (We can guess what label is belong to each control).
But nice work with grouping, thanks alot.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2010, 08:27:23 am »
i like the grouping too - but as Kildor said, please remove those * and -->> . Using unicode here isn't possible because we are only parsing ascii from the script files. so please remove them.

& Hud Options looks wrongly aligned and the & should not be needed, too.

nice job.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2010, 09:03:01 am »
I`ve wrote to the wrong thread, so just repaste my opinion here:

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Btw, I have one more suggestion, make bars a bit shorter, to give more space for labels, since there is not enough place for Russian i/e/. May be we should move all labels some left for the same.

And one more, please, don`t do as you done in revision #30039, look to the wiki about component node. And be consistent with all UI, may be change options page to make it consistent with main menu?

Now text in mainmenu looks very bright and irritates the eyes, It was much better before.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2010, 09:22:16 am »
@Mattn: Thanks for the 'nice job'. At least I got 1 vote  ;)

@Kildor: Is there even some compliment hidden somewhere ? It seems I posted to the wrong thread also, here are my answers:

http://ufoai.ninex.info/forum/index.php?topic=4829.msg38586#msg38586

@Duke: Thanks.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2010, 12:05:38 pm by MCR »

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2010, 09:27:02 am »
We still have to reorganize the video options as it is 'quite a mess' there still, I have not rearranged those logically yet, because there has to be a 'placing concept' first, as we will probably not be able to present those & all of the future ones arisian is going to bring us on this one page without starting to become unconsistent with the other menus...

But I think it is good enough for 2.3 as it is now.

Here some code to underline what I mean:

Code: [Select]
cvar_t *r_flares;
cvar_t *r_coronas;
cvar_t *r_shadowmapping;
cvar_t *r_shadowmap_width;
cvar_t *r_map_maxlevel;
cvar_t *cl_worldlevel;
cvar_t *r_debug_normals;
cvar_t *r_debug_tangents;
cvar_t *r_debug_lightmaps;
cvar_t *r_debug_deluxemaps;
cvar_t *r_debug_normalmaps;
cvar_t *r_debug_shadows;
« Last Edit: May 18, 2010, 12:10:21 pm by MCR »

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2010, 09:39:50 am »
@BTAxis: Thanks for removing this 'poorly phrased comment', was not satisfied with this either, but wanted to provide some kind of explanation for some of the maybe 'not so bright' players to explain how exactly 'isometric view' will look like & I thought 'unnatural' would be the right word for it, but I did not like the phrase either.

But we should provide some explanation maybe...

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2010, 10:08:16 am »
I should probably rephrase everything in that file at some point. It's just that the word "unnatural" didn't rub the right way (since I like isometric mode).

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2010, 10:25:12 am »
I should probably rephrase everything in that file at some point. It's just that the word "unnatural" didn't rub the right way (since I like isometric mode).

Rephrasing 'everything' would not be very nice...  >:(
I am not a native English speaker, but I would say that this would not be necessary for sure  ;)

This description was not meant valuing.
But 'Isometric view' is looking unnatural, that is a fact, as every real object you look at 'has a perspective correction'.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2010, 10:26:41 am »
But it would be a great idea to build a camera that makes 'isometric' pictures !

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2010, 10:42:54 am »
I think a lot of the tooltips are hard to read, or to understand. So I'll try to make them more comprehensive. That's all.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2010, 11:18:50 am »
You are the lead designer. I trust your judgement. Your decisions are normally very reasonable & intelligent. No problem for me as long as you do not remove all of the funny stuff  ;)

Maybe you want to add other tooltips also, imho it would be nice for the UFO:AI newbie to get tooltips for 'Skirmish Mode' & other stuff also, no ?

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2010, 05:47:48 pm »
The tooltips for the graphics options are nice... but i think some options could better explained. Information about improved or decreased performace or quality (in all tooltipps) would help alot. if its possible to creat one button for best possible graphics settings would be very nice too.

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Re: Graphic settings Noob Help - What settings?
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2010, 08:17:46 pm »
On the subject of graphic settings:

Can we please get a setting for "Assume my display is properly calibrated"? I've posted this in the mac subforum, but I suspect I was in the wrong place. Now that Vista and/or 7, as well as Mac, have a native OS concept of a calibrated display, can we get a setting to use that instead of trying to replicate the display adjustments internally?

(Or do you want to add controls for tint adjustments, color drift, adjustments to make dark colors brighter without making the bright colors even more bright, etc.)