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Dual Wielding Pistols?

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Aiki-Knight:

--- Quote from: Surrealistik on July 02, 2008, 04:55:43 am ---The appalling lack of accuracy is true for weapons that feature recoil, not so much for those that do not, so it should be possible to dual wield certain firearms.

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Except that dual-wielded weapons would lack line-of-sight aiming. If you're lining up each weapon to fire, you're losing time by switching. If you're not lining up to eye-aim, you're not aiming.

Surrealistik:
As I mentioned earlier, dual wielded weapons obviously would not have comparable accuracy to one of these weapons being used singularly, precisely because you're firing both weapons without properly aligning them. However, the accuracy on recoiless weapons should be good enough so that the increased firepower serves to compensate for the reduction of precision, thus making the practice viable if situational.

Winter:

--- Quote from: Surrealistik on July 02, 2008, 10:05:05 am ---As I mentioned earlier, dual wielded weapons obviously would not have comparable accuracy to one of these weapons being used singularly, precisely because you're firing both weapons without properly aligning them. However, the accuracy on recoiless weapons should be good enough so that the increased firepower serves to compensate for the reduction of precision, thus making the practice viable if situational.

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Talking specifically about the laser pistol, you still wouldn't be able to see where you were aiming the infrared laser beam without looking through the pistol scope or other vision enhancer. Aiki-Knight is entirely correct -- the lack of recoil doesn't compensate for the fact that you'll have accuracy considerably lower than an ordinary handgun of any variety due to lack of line-of-sight aiming and lack of a two-handed grip, accuracy which is already pretty poor due to you firing a handgun and not a rifle. And now you're now using two hands to fire two handguns suboptimally when you could be using them to fire a laser rifle optimally, thereby eliminating the only battlefield advantage pistols have over rifles, which is that they can be fired one-handed.

Regards,
Winter

sirg:
You could attach red laser pointers on pistols for good accuracy, so then you know what and where you'll shoot.

Sophisanmus:
Though, in this game most of the fighting is very close-quarters, generally less than a city block in area.  An example from an X-COM game, Apocalypse: With the exception of the end-game, where indiscriminately trashing enemy structures from the inside out was about as much of a mission objective as shooting the aliens, I found a use for auto-fire dual pistols in eliminating brainsuckers and hyperworms when they got too close, generally the 1-4 space range.  To be honest, opening up with a pair of SMGs at that range would be preferable to a single one, or just about any other single- or two-handed weapon.  Laser pistols would probably be useful somewhat farther out due to recoil, probably 5-8 or so spaces, though not quite as devastating.  Of course, accuracy would suffer greatly outside these ranges, perhaps a single formula could handle this.  I'm not pushing for a 2-hand blastfest all-action all-the-time, but a more sensible way to keep this as an option while keeping it plausibly balanced. 

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