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What Alien Invasion needs in order to replace XCOM1 as the best game

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odie:

--- Quote from: Kenner on July 07, 2009, 04:38:18 am ---It is unfortunate that those who want to complain tend to post, while those of us that actually support the project tend to sit back quietly letting the team get on with its work, and happily and patiently waiting for the next release, for this tends to give the impression that the whole community is "unappreciative". For myself, and I suspect many others, the original poster does not represent my view of the project or the efforts of the team. I think UFO:AI is a great project, and I have been fascinated to monitor its progress. It's amazing to me that so many people would give freely of their time to create a special game free for all to play. Please ignore the naysayers - they are the minority.


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Yupz yupz! Its unfortunate, Kenner. 5^ with u. :D

And well, dun be so bothered by such too.

I like BTAxis and Mattn's ideas I seen before - Contribute if you want to see things move faster yourself. Dun like the graphics : join the artists' team. Dun like the codes - fiddle with it and join the coder's team. Dun like the speed of release, Download the SVN and build them yourselves. Haha. :D

Fistleaf:
As I have already said, the "original poster", i.e. me, has no intention of attacking UFO:AI as a game.  Just giving my opinion which is different from the admin does not mean I am "unappreciative" and a "naysayer".  Maybe the admin has encountered too many of such flamers over the years to become so paranoid and defensive and label every opposing view as being against the UFO:AI team.
Also, what is the point in locking a "pointless" poll which is not going to affect the game development at all (as stated by the admin)?  As long as there is no attack on race, gender or religion, why not allow the freedom of expression?

homunculus:

--- Quote from: Fistleaf on July 08, 2009, 03:57:41 pm ---[...]
Maybe the admin has encountered too many of such flamers over the years to become so paranoid and defensive and label every opposing view as being against the UFO:AI team.
Also, what is the point in locking a "pointless" poll which is not going to affect the game development at all (as stated by the admin)?  As long as there is no attack on race, gender or religion, why not allow the freedom of expression?
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it's no use arguing here about it, lol.
people here have trained for _years_ and they will tear you to tiny bits in just mere seconds!
and even if you survive for some time, you know what side the banhammer is on.

the last stable release was about a year ago.
so, some new poster comes here and is used to software lifecycle talk like they talk about it everywhere in the job context, and there will be 20 posts long forum war in just a few days.
or someone says just anything about the priorities, or whatever.

i think the poll was locked not so much because of the pointlessness of it but because of the pointless and long flaming that was in the thread.
it might look pointless to lock the poll for that.
just sit back and relax.

for your information, talking about "freedom of expression" sounds like another forum war is about to start.
the forum mods have no obligation to respect any kind of freedom of expression, etc.

actually what i myself have not figured out is what is so irritating about mentioning anything about playability of the dev build (i think it's nice if people think that dev builds are also ok), as some newcomers did a little while ago and, you could guess, there was a forum war about it.
and it was a rather passionate one (again), for example some people said that btaxis was not qualified to be a mod because of his personality traits (an old topic that comes up again and again, btw).
but, you know, btaxis has no obligation to be anything at all.
but, people have their expectations of what is to be expected, and they think they are right, and they can't digest another point of view.

so, i think the poll was locked because of the forum war.
and i think saying anything about "freedom of expression" was a very bad idea on your part.

i hope it helped with your bewilderment : )

Destructavator:
Actually the poll was locked simply because it really is irrelevant, effectively asking "How can this project become something it isn't supposed to become?" or "How can this game accomplish doing something it doesn't aim to do in the first place?"  I thought Winter explained it quite well, we're not trying to replace or re-make XCOM.

For what it is worth Fistleaf, I appreciate the fact that you apologized, thank you.

As for homunculus's last post, I wouldn't say that I fail to understand what he posted, but I certainly wouldn't agree with it and would take it with a grain of salt - I can see that some of us here are working to further develop this project and actually be constructive, and others in this forum are clearly not.  If you don't mind, some of us here would like to get back to work...

odie:

--- Quote from: Destructavator on July 09, 2009, 03:01:09 am ---Actually the poll was locked simply because it really is irrelevant, effectively asking "How can this project become something it isn't supposed to become?" or "How can this game accomplish doing something it doesn't aim to do in the first place?"  I thought Winter explained it quite well, we're not trying to replace or re-make XCOM.

For what it is worth Fistleaf, I appreciate the fact that you apologized, thank you.

As for homunculus's last post, I wouldn't say that I fail to understand what he posted, but I certainly wouldn't agree with it and would take it with a grain of salt - I can see that some of us here are working to further develop this project and actually be constructive, and others in this forum are clearly not.  If you don't mind, some of us here would like to get back to work...

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5^ with u on tat. :)

Winter's explanation was flat and to the point - UFOAI is UFOAI, it will not be and never will be XCOM clone / MOD. Yupz. I like tat simple explanation.

Plus, work is always needed to be done here, so no point in such posts again. In fact, on other forums, if its something simply out of topic like this, i have seen MODs simply locking it, and if such a thread is reopened in a new thread, tat person is p-ban! So, to a certain extent, our MODs are already very tolerant, lest we forget.

:D

(There is always an out of topic stuff for things NOT relating to the game..... this particular thread section is for General Discussion on Things WITHIN UFOAI. :D)

Toodles! Back to compiling the game for today! haha.

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