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Captain Bipto:
Well if aliens use armor (the one that gets you to nano-armor) that should suffice as the least most acceptable armor that provides safety for firing plasma weapons (for now unless the devs are changing that, which I doubt).
I think a minimal amount of armor for the safe use of plasma weapons could be an okay idea but Nano-comp armor is valuable enough on it's own I don't think it needs to be "sweetened up" any further. Armor requirements would also bottle neck safe use of plasma weapons (and I thought researching the weapon was supposed to cover how to safely use them). From what I have seen in the dev version so far (limited experience really) I do not think it makes sense to apply this to other non-plasma weapons.
Also don't forget that that plasma bolt is leaving the weapon at extreme speed, the short range is more due to the bolt losing energy and coherence as it travels than slow speed. I am no physics major but I think high speed would probably provide the best protection from a plasma bolt, the faster it leaves the area the less chance of it doing something unpleasant to the firer. Finally, plasma is nothing more really than ionized gas. Shielding within the weapon would protect the wielder from any sort of unpleasantness occurring in the weapon with every shot.
Valis:
Did you really tried wiki?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_rifle
I think some ppl are missing the point that this is only a game. Fun > realism. It is important that things are plausible and most relistick as possible. Every one is used to things like plasma [and maybe even phasors ;)] so our job is to create a plausible explanation to how plasma works and not to think how it could not work.
Smae goes to armour. There is no computer firewall that can not be cracked and I like to think in this way about everything. Humans can and will adjust to anything, even to plasma weaponry and somebody will come up with an idea how to build an armour against it.
For example, if plasma 'projectile' is a highly condensed ionized superheated gas that is enveloped in some kind of magnetic 'shell' then the armour against it could be something that redirects those magnetic shells or disrupts its coherence before the projectile would get close enough to the target.
Already today the battlefield is filled with computers, I would imagine that in year 2087 the miniaturisation[and having alien nano technology] would allow to fill an armour with lots of defensive gizmos.
[I think the reall problem of the game is the time, to simplify nations of the world were united in few blocks so it could not be in presence but year 2087 is to far for me, 2027 would sufice, but that is a topic for a whole thread]
Darkpriest667:
--- Quote from: Captain Bipto on March 08, 2009, 05:01:24 am ---Well if aliens use armor (the one that gets you to nano-armor) that should suffice as the least most acceptable armor that provides safety for firing plasma weapons (for now unless the devs are changing that, which I doubt).
I think a minimal amount of armor for the safe use of plasma weapons could be an okay idea but Nano-comp armor is valuable enough on it's own I don't think it needs to be "sweetened up" any further. Armor requirements would also bottle neck safe use of plasma weapons (and I thought researching the weapon was supposed to cover how to safely use them). From what I have seen in the dev version so far (limited experience really) I do not think it makes sense to apply this to other non-plasma weapons.
Also don't forget that that plasma bolt is leaving the weapon at extreme speed, the short range is more due to the bolt losing energy and coherence as it travels than slow speed. I am no physics major but I think high speed would probably provide the best protection from a plasma bolt, the faster it leaves the area the less chance of it doing something unpleasant to the firer. Finally, plasma is nothing more really than ionized gas. Shielding within the weapon would protect the wielder from any sort of unpleasantness occurring in the weapon with every shot.
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Aliens from a different planet lightyears away.... that have different biological qualities.. one which is probably high resistance to radiation.... more than the 4000 celsius you have to deal with is the radioactive output of most plasma... i hope no one plans on walking where you fired that thing for 10000 plus years... else they are going to have a bad life... even at high speeds.. exposure to these temperatures and radiation levels will kill you.... the armor you are talking about would have to be a new alloy that is not on earth (where do you get the materials) that is not only heat resistant but also deflects radioactivity... it would have to cover you from head to toe... and again... id like to mention.. i hope you dont expect civilians to reoccupy a house for 10k+ years after you and mr orknok have been firing plasma bolts through it...
Captain Bipto:
Plasma and radiation do not go hand in hand...now if the devs had written in anti-matter weapons I'd be crying about radiation too.
Defense against plasma? The devs have said that shields (and I think fields) are not fitting for the setting so the next best defenses are:
1.) Not getting hit (with a wide berth)
OR
2.) Insulating the target from the heat of the bolt...that means super materials, in this case nano-based armor.
Darkpriest667:
maybe you havent heard.... of cold plasma.. its not always a matter of insulating from heat... there are so many different types of plasma you could really only focus on one for protection
I do agree with the 2 points you made.. not all plasma has radioactive properties and that nano armor would be the way to go ....
However given the high variable in temperature alone i just dont see how you could protect yourself from all the forms that exist
The reason i mention radiation so much is that well... most of the plasma we are able to produce that could be weaponized has a high radiation output due to the processes involved in producing it..... im sure they can work that out in the next 75 years but I am still skeptical of "radiation free" plasma
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