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Offline kurja

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can't research particle beam weapon?
« on: December 16, 2011, 08:00:53 am »
So I disassembled a ufo fighter, and got a "research proposal" email about the fighter's particle beam weapon. But when I go to the research menu to put those scientists working on it, particle beam weapon is shown in the group of items that can't be researched at that base because those items are stored elsewhere. When the ufo was disassembled I also got a message about having lost antimatter because that base didn't have an antimatter storage, is this related?

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 10:40:46 am »
Transfer the Particle Beam Weapon to the base where your scientists will do the research.

If you disassemble a ship that is intact, you will extract varying amounts of Antimatter and you need to build a Storage Building at the base where the disassembling takes place, to keep it in. AM Storage Buildings hold a maximum of 1000 units of Antimatter.

Later ship models (new & improved designs) will use this as a fuel..  ;)

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 11:51:44 am »
Transfer the Particle Beam Weapon to the base where your scientists will do the research.

I would have assumed it to have been researchable at the base where it was disassembled from the ufo, if not, where the heck did they put the darn gun? In the transfer menu I can see some propulsion, navigation etc components from the ufo, but not the gun.

Speaking of transfers, is there a way to see stuff that's on it's way, between bases, and when they'll arrive?

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 01:44:14 pm »
Well if you have scientists available and labs at the base where the disassembly took place, you should be able to research the weapon.

PBWs appear in my Transfer list ok.. maybe you are at the wrong base?

AFAIK there is nothing to tell you what is being transferred where yet once you have initiated the transfer.. I'm also not sure what development is yet to be done on the transfer system - but you can offer any ideas you might have on it in the Features Requests section.

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 08:19:17 pm »
Well if you have scientists available and labs at the base where the disassembly took place, you should be able to research the weapon.

PBWs appear in my Transfer list ok.. maybe you are at the wrong base?

So I would have thought, but I *can't* research the darn weapon. I tried it from an earlier savegame, fast forwarded to when the ufo disassembly was completed, and it's as if the gun just wasn't there.



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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 08:37:09 pm »
The only thing I can think of is that you probably haven't completed research on UFO Theory. It is probably in the list somewhere at one of your bases and according to the Research Tree data, it is a pre-requisite to the research on PBWs.  ;)

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 09:03:47 pm »
which version it is?

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 09:08:31 pm »
Well I'm on 2.4 - not sure what kurja is on..  ::) :o

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 09:17:33 pm »
The only thing I can think of is that you probably haven't completed research on UFO Theory. It is probably in the list somewhere at one of your bases and according to the Research Tree data, it is a pre-requisite to the research on PBWs.  ;)

UFO Theory is prerequisite of UFO - Fighter, without it he couldn't have disassembled the UFO,

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 09:31:47 pm »
which version it is?

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2.3.1, running on ubuntu lucid.

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 09:49:29 pm »
UFO Theory is prerequisite of UFO - Fighter, without it he couldn't have disassembled the UFO,

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Quite right.. just trying to help..  :-[

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 09:51:34 pm »
Well I'm on 2.4 - not sure what kurja is on..  ::) :o

wishful thinking ;)

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 08:13:03 am »
any ideas on this?

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 10:13:40 pm »
I remember a bug like that in 2.3.x, the research tree was fixed in 2.4-dev if I'm right.

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Re: can't research particle beam weapon?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2011, 11:39:58 pm »
disassembled another alien ship, now particle beam weapons appear in my storage and I can research them too.