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Discussion / Re: Long time no see, game impressions

« Last post by homunculus on February 18, 2023, 06:35:12 am »

Oh, someone I remember is still here!

I tried that RF thing again.
Soldier A shot for 12 TU. Then soldier B shot for 12 TU. Then soldier A shot again for 12 TU and got reaction fire from the alien.

So, when Shakiki and Din ran in front of the aliens and escaped a desperate situation, the aliens probably just didn't have time units reserved for reaction fire.

And another time, when they captured an alien that way with stun rods, that alien also probably didn't have RF active.

So, what Shakiki and Din did was actually awkward and cute and is not the way RF works.

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User modifications / Re: Lazy HUD v2

« Last post by homunculus on February 18, 2023, 05:48:14 am »

Yes, someone who is using Windows could have told you years ago.
Feedback can be kind of important that way.

For example, I found that it is possible that the HUD only shows 4 first soldiers in the soldier selection (finished the battle by only selecting soldiers on screen, no real drama). This happened in a battle where one of my soldiers got stunned and recovered. I do not remember if the stunned soldier was the 5-th soldier, he could have been. That is a rare occasion, a developer of a HUD might not get into this situation while playtesting, so people should let him know.

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And different opinions are always welcome. I do not understand why some people see differences as conflict. Maybe I am an autist or something?
In my case, opinions and criticisms might be good ideas, might help me to generate better ideas, or just help me to put my own opinion into context / perspective.
I felt like I was making a HUD that will be inferior to what it could have been with proper criticism and comments, and that was uninspiring. Also, I would learn less.

For example, I separated the buttons for clarity, but actually I liked it much more when you put them close together (less visual clutter).

If I had thought of not drawing the button borders at all, I most probably would have done different kind of icons and made all the buttons like you did with the settings and end turn button. I mean, at the moment the shape of reaction fire button is a square like every other button and you would need to look at the icon. But with no border and background the visible shape would have been a shield (the icon), and perhaps would have been easier to find without looking too much that way. So the player would look more at the battle and less at the buttons.

While trying H-Hour's HUD (Default HUD in 2.6-dev) I found it made sense to put the stun bar on top of the health bar (like reserved time units is on time units bar).

Maybe it would be better to show the full view of the selected soldier, perhaps at the left of the selected soldier details box (like at the left in 2.6-dev Default HUD, but smaller) and it could also double as a crouch / stand button. This way there would be no big portrait, but the special crouch button would also become unnecessary.

Just the heart would have been a much better icon for body wounds than trying to draw a body with a tiny heart in it, I feel a bit ridiculous for doing it the way I did. It looks like a bag with some fastener on it. Someone could have told me in the comments.

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And, also, as I experienced this week (trying out my own HUD and yours) that while I was scripting the HUD I was paying attention to what works as intended, but not really understanding what is the most convenient way to do things. This time I had a gameplay goal. I remembered I wanted to try specializing one base on workshops and another base on labs, but never did so back then. So, I was playing rather than playtesting.

I noticed that I never used the mouse wheel to change the fire mode and I never even looked at the fire mode text in the weapon box, I always chose the fire mode by clicking in the list that pops up at mouse-over. If you (and other people) also use the fire mode selection the same way, you could make (or, if you are not playing any more--you could have made) this button even smaller. Also, in my own HUD, I should have separated the fire modes in the fire mode list more clearly (H-Hour did something like this in his HUD).

I should have set reaction fire active when reaction fire mode is selected, like you did in your HUD. Obviously, that is what the user wants to do most of the time.

I should have made the containers that have nothing in them (like an empty left hand container) not pop up at mouse-over. Or, if that is not possible, perhaps I should have made them always visible. Sometimes I wanted to select a soldier at the edge of the screen, just to find out that the previously invisible empty off-hand container pops up on top of it.

I should have made a button in the fire modes list that would let the user shoot even if there are not enough time units because some are reserved for reaction fire (probably with exclamation mark icon). So the user could cancel the reaction fire and shoot without going back and forth between fire modes and the reaction fire button.

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In your HUD, I would have liked to look at fire mode list even if there were not enough TU to shoot, though. Also, I saw you only updated fire modes at mouse over, but not at soldier select. Was there some complication?

Up and down arrows on keyboard did not change level in 2.6-dev. They do work in Default HUD, perhaps it could be copy-paste from there.

I could not get the transparent-background stat and inventory windows to work. In 2.6-dev the result was stats and inventory window like in Default HUD but somehow without the wounds data (so wounds are only visible in the selected soldier box).

Is there a convenient way to reserve time units for using headgear?

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I cannot remember any other comments right now.
In what state is the lazy hud version 2 at the moment? Are you still playing / changing it?
Or maybe some day some archaeologist finds this game and this mod and the comments might have a potential to be useful.

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Discussion / Re: Long time no see, game impressions

« Last post by geever on February 13, 2023, 09:45:46 pm »

Thanks for the feedback!

The UFO chase prediction was on my list a long time ago. Probably we should limit the distance it tries to track your direction and speed, and make the path adaptation more granular.

The RF I have less experience with, the trick I was told is using smoke clouds more effectively in combat.

About the bonus question: Our artwork came from several people, a long time ago, so no sure. I believe we did not specifically ask for a certain style.

-geever

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User modifications / Re: Lazy HUD v2

« Last post by Norby on February 13, 2023, 03:49:39 am »

Wow, thanks for the reply.

I played under Linux together with the extra files without any problem. I do not tested under windows so thank you for the fix!

I used the "user data folder" (home dir) in linux, also thanks for the description how to use it under windows.

Yes, I like to use the  'reserve time units for crouch'.

Personally I liked the lookout of this HUD much more than others, this is why I started to improve it to fit for my needs, so big thanks for the original version. I learned a lot about HUD scripting during the improvement, it was a good and enjoyable programming experience.

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User modifications / Re: Lazy HUD v2

« Last post by homunculus on February 12, 2023, 11:26:15 pm »

Well, a long time has passed, and the author is probably not reading it.
And the last development of the game seems to be from 2014.
But there seem to be people still playing the game.

When I tried this mod, first it crashed the game at loading screen. That was on Windows 10.
But I did not give up.
I got it to work by removing the unnecessary files named 'Optional files' in Norby's post.
That is, those files:

The pics/hud- folder contain images for the default hud without
the thick border decorations. To enable it copy the content also
and remove the "-" sign from the "hud-" folder, so rename to "hud".
This is the way to clear the borders around inventory and physical
stats windows in LazyHUD due to affect both HUDs.

The previous subverisons of hud_lazy2.ufo are named to .ufo-xx,
these are here just for historical reasons but do nothing.

Then it worked very well in both 2.5 and 2.6-dev.

There are two main criticisms that I have.

First, in my opinion it is impolite to put text on top of the face of a portrait. I understand there was the problem to be solved with the floor container (and I think your placement is better), and probably some struggle with the script, and the face and text problem was secondary at that moment.
Perhaps it would be better to make some space for the portrait at the left amd put the text to the right of the portrait.

Second, it is way better to put the mod in user data folder as described here:
https://ufoai.org/forum/index.php/topic,8830.msg68466.html#msg68466
Of course, I changed that, and anyone else can also copy the files there.
But the mod worked both ways, and worked rather well.

It raised some other minor questions like:
Is anyone really using the 'reserve time units for crouch' feature?

Maybe I will continue this feedback post some day, maybe not.
At least now it is posted that you might need to remove the unnecessary files to make the mod work.
And it is quite a good and fully functional convenience mod for the battlescape.

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User modifications / Re: how to apply a mod (Win 7)

« Last post by homunculus on February 12, 2023, 08:02:47 pm »

Maybe for some people this +set fs_gamedir seems confusing, and they might use some background info to feel more confident about what they are doing.

Disclaimer
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I am not a C programmer, nor a Windows programmer or expert. I have just been using some Windows, UNIX and Linux for some time, including some programming. However, I hope an explanation by a casual user might be easier to understand by other casual users.

Ancient History
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Once upon a time there were no smartphones, not even mobile phones, and 10 kilobytes hard drive (compared to 10 terabytes nowadays) was a luxury.

Commands on computers had a limit of 6 letters. Same for variable names and function names in, say, Fortran77 (a programming language).

So, you want a command SetEnvironmentVariable? You abbreviate it to setenv.
MakeDirectory? mkdir (Folders were called directories back then).
ChangeDirectory? chdir.
BasicInputOutputSystem? bios.

Sometimes things can get funny, like I myself have invented function names like simsym and symsum because they were the most meaningful abbreviations (SimulateSymmetry, and SumOfSimulatedSymmetry).

I mean, the abbreviations were created with best intentions of being easy to understand, but with 6 letters you can only do so much.

Later, when this 6 letter limit was not necessary, people still understood that ch means change, mk means make and dir means directory.
It is like nowadays Application is called App even without the 6 letters limit and everybody should understand what it means (not Apparition).

Command Prompt
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People are talking about command prompt or command line interface or cmd. Back then, the little command prompt window was your whole screen that you had. But the monitors were not that small? It is because the resolution was lower.

So, in this command line interface you would navigate (by using chdir) to the folder (directory) where ufo.exe is.
.exe means ufo.exe is an executable, or in other words, a program that you can run.
You wouldn't need to type ufo.exe to run it just ufo is enough.

So, congratulations, you have managed to run ufo from command line.

Command Line Parameters
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Those +set fs_gamedir things are command line parameters. When ufo.exe runs, the program also knows what those command line parameters are.
set (most likely) means set like in English.
fs (most likely) means file system.
gamedir (most likely) means game directory.

Additional Game Directory
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If you run ufo.exe (without command line parameters), you can mod the game by putting files and folders in the directory where ufo.exe is, and if those folders and files have the same directory structure as in the source code of the game, they get used instead of the corresponding originals.

But putting mods in that directory is a bit invasive.

So, when you run ufo.exe for the first time, it also creates another directory, on Windows 10 it would be
C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\UFOAI\2.6-dev
(note that AppData is a hidden folder, you need to set 'show hidden folders' to see it)
(and you need to have run the game at least once to have the UFOAI\2.6-dev folder created at all)

This directory is (most likely) also treated as the game directory where ufo.exe is.
Also, you have folder 'base' there where the game stores your configurations and save files.

A Folder for a Mod in User Data Directory
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The directory
C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\UFOAI\2.6-dev
is (most likely) called the user data directory.

You can create a folder 'mods' in that directory, next to the 'base', and tell ufo.exe to treat the directory 'mods' as an additional game directory by starting ufo.exe from command line as
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods
(there is no need to get confused if someone writes '.\ufo +set fs_gamedir mods', the dot just means current directory and can be omitted, same goes for the full path if you are already in the directory where ufo.exe is)

Organizing Mods
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But what if you want to try one mod today and another mod tomorrow, meaning, you want several mods?
Then you might create a subfolder of the folder 'mods' for each mod.
Like, you might create 'mods\lazy_hud_v2' and 'mods\lazy_hud' and 'mods\radar_mod' and put the mods in their own folders.
And now, when you want to play ufo with a mod, say, lazy hud version 2, you open the command line interface and navigate to the folder where ufo.exe is and type
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2
I have not tried this, but most likely you could run two mods at the same time by passing multiple game directories as command line parameters like this:
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2 mods\radar_mod

Creating a Batch File
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Navigating to the ufo.exe folder in Command Prompt and typing all those command line parameters can be tedious.

You can create a plain text file (extension .txt) where you write
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2
and you save it not with the extension '.txt' but with extension '.bat' (say, lazy2.bat).
Then you can move the batch file to the folder where ufo.exe is (Windows will ask for admin password).

.bat means batch, like a batch of commands. You could put multiple commands in a batch file, and if you run the batch file (same way you run an executable) all those commands get executed.

Now you could navigate to the folder where ufo.exe and lazy2.bat are and type
lazy2
and you have executed the command in the .bat file which is
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2

Creating a Shortcut to the Batch File
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You can skip the command line altogether.

Just like .exe can be run by double-click, a .bat can also be run by double-click.
If you want to edit the .bat file you choose Edit from right mouse button menu (Open will just run the commands in the .bat).

And you can create a shortcut of the batch file and place it on your desktop.
Then you can run
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2
in the directory where ufo.exe is by double-clicking the shortcut on your desktop.

You can also change the icon of the shortcut by opening Properties (in right mouse click menu on the shortcut) and pressing 'Change Icon...' button in the 'Shortcut' tab. Then you can navigate to UFOAI-2.6-dev folder and choose ufo.exe file as the "icon".

Now you should have a nice looking clickable shortcut on your desktop.

Summary
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Please put your mods in a separate folder in AppData rather than in the folder where ufo.exe is.
Like, say,
C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\UFOAI\2.6-dev\mods\lazy_hud_v2
and run the modded game as
ufo +set fs_gamedir mods\lazy_hud_v2

Now, after writing all of this, I am wondering if I clarified things or if I made it even more confusing.

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Discussion / Long time no see, game impressions

« Last post by homunculus on February 09, 2023, 01:52:32 pm »

So, after about 12 years, I tried the game again for a few days because I found some mod that I absolutely had to try (https://ufoai.org/forum/index.php?topic=9093.0).

The gameplay has improved quite a bit, I very much liked the smoke grenades changes (stun) and the new reaction fire and bleeding.
Didn't like the new soldier models. Why did they need to be replaced? Was there a copyright problem?

I even have two stories.

Story 1.
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So, my two riflemen (Shakiki and Din) had to cross an open field in front of aliens pointing rifles at them.

Din: We have to run all that way to that cover, we will surely die!
Shakiki: I have an idea. I take two steps and stop. Then you take two steps and stop. Then I again. Then you again. See?
Din: Curse your ideas, do you want us to also look stupid when we die?
Shakiki: Just lets try it. If we die I won't tell anybody. I promise.
Din: ...

(I mean, I really do like the new reaction fire. The player has to deliberately exploit it to break it. Without such tricks it works rather well. It could actually be perfect reaction fire for the Shevaar to give them some reptilian character).


Story 2.
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A Fighter UFO started to chase my Saracen. I fled with the Saracen, but noticed the UFO is turning to strange directions in response. Saracen is faster than Fighter UFO, so I figured out it thought the shortest path was around The Earth.

When Saracen stopped because the movement order ended, the UFO started to move towards the Saracen again. But when I ordered the Saracen to stop, the UFO continued to move in whatever direction it was moving.

So we met up at a convenient location above a desert along with my two Stilettos from the other base.

Later, a Harvester was chasing me back and forth over a SAM site, trying to catch me around The Earth.

(I mean, the aliens are not stupid, they just have a different perspective. For them, compared to The Universe, The Earth is very small. Like children chasing each other around a tree, when one of them changes direction, they bump into each other)

And a bonus question (I do not guarantee that I read the answer if it takes more than a few days).
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Is the graphics style of UFO:AI heavily influenced by Descent Freespace or is Descent Freespace just an example of what was generally fashionable at that time?

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Design / Re: A better reaction fire system

« Last post by EvelynWilson on January 09, 2023, 10:50:19 pm »

Hello, i have ideas, which you might treat crazy, as they might need long work, but this might be just my opinion, so would be happy to see it discussed. The format below is what are moobs somewhat machine/computer-like... hope, that doesn't make it less readable
Something might change during discussion... anyway...

More complex reaction, depending on mind:
    - Various differentiating levels, requiring proper mind level.
     Example levels (from lowes to highest):
        - humanoids and sheevar | spider | hovernet
        - taman | ortnok | sheevar
        - armored | unarmored kinds for taman and ortnok
        - light | heavy armor for taman and ortnok (or whoever yet)
        - standard | battle mods of hovernet and spider
        - The highest level 1: interactive reaction fire
         Possible order:
            - Each mode of each usable weapon, unit holds, must be enabled for reaction fire;
            - During enemy's turn - when unit appears in sight of soldier - time as usually is accumulated for reaction
             (accumulated time is displayed in unit's time bar), stopping for reaction requests in these cases:
                - Reacting player just accumulated enough time for next enabled reaction fire mode
                 Example: if player wields pistol and knife, reaction requests will happen on following time positions:
                    4 (knife stub) -> 6 (pistol quick shot) -> 8 (knife throw) -> 10 (pistol aimed shot or burst)
                Following cases - last warning, working if reaction time was not utilized when it could:
                - When reaction target is going to open fire (if it wants to shot plasma pisol burst,
                 its time will be added to reaction fire time reserve)
                - When target is moving towards cover and has remaining 1 tail to pass before it is in cover;
                 (in addition to marking RF iterrupted, it can also game mechanics may check alien's path
                 for such warning position and trigger warning reaction request when enemy is at it)
                Some examples:
                - sniper skipped snap shot, waiting for aimed, but enemy opens fire or about to hide too early - in shis case it can still do quick shot.
                - heavy MG-man, waiting for long burst, but forced to fire 5-round
                 (before taman will overkill him with long plasma burst)
        - Highest level 2: custom reaction
         Almost same, as level 1, but in critical situations (active unit is about to fire) passive unit may be allowed
         to do some limited set of other actions, guided by player or AI, spending accumulated time as it/he/she likes:
            - hide / unhide / grab / drop / reload weapon
             (if enemy has melee weapon, than there is enough time to even reload weapon,
             or e.g. at least take a knife to end it, if it is too impudent to still try to rush passive player)
            - some on-place movement actions - seat, stand, turn
             (e.g. soldier behind firebird wing, trying to shoot enemy on other side of wing,
             must seat, or bullet will be stoped by wing)
             (unsure about runing, as it may break some statics, thus becoming unacceptable)

You are suggesting great ideas and what about your experience when you applied any one of these ideas in your practice? 

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Discussion / where is the console to open

« Last post by dbv612 on November 13, 2022, 06:55:38 pm »

would like to try the money cheat,  but don't know how to find the console.  is there one in single player mode?

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Discussion / Re: What are ufo:ai 2.2 cheats codes

« Last post by dbv612 on November 13, 2022, 06:51:30 pm »

where is the console to open?