UFO:Alien Invasion

General => Discussion => Topic started by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 12:27:17 pm

Title: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 12:27:17 pm
I downloaded 2.3 and looks good :D

Howerver I cant seem to get into the middle room where the stairs are in the alien ships.  Thinking the doors where just small I crouched and stuff but I just cant do it.  Ive managed to throw grenades in and stuff.  I know the alien is up there as I have seen him.

Every time there is a ship it seems to be a night mission and maybe I just cant see something im supposed to.

Any help on this would be much appreciated.

Thanx.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: geever on September 14, 2010, 12:32:54 pm
Howerver I cant seem to get into the middle room where the stairs are in the alien ships.  Thinking the doors where just small I crouched and stuff but I just cant do it.  Ive managed to throw grenades in and stuff.  I know the alien is up there as I have seen him.

Please attach a screenshot and wrtie which map was it.

-geever
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 12:45:36 pm
And its map - Tropical UFO

Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Sarin on September 14, 2010, 02:02:56 pm
If you would do a little search before posting, you'd know it's known bug and is being worked on...
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: H-Hour on September 14, 2010, 02:03:51 pm
To be honest I've lost track of all the harvester issues I've fixed, but I'm pretty sure that the tropic harvester has been fixed for 2.3.1. EazY, that means the problem should be fixed in the upcoming 2.3.1 release when it gets here.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 04:04:04 pm
I did search a little, blindly (didnt know to search the key words 'tropical harvester')..  My internet connection is very limited due to bad wifi signal it took me 7 hours to download 2.3.  I would change provider but Im moving soon and dont want to commit to any contract yet.

So now i've just noticed the error is on tropical maps as I could go upstairs on a cold map. 
Is there ways around this? Or is it a case of using the Auto Complete mission option, I dont know of the advantages and disadvantages of this because the manual's seem very incomplete.  Kinda wished I had waited to the more bug free version came out.

Thanx
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Sarin on September 14, 2010, 04:37:47 pm
Patience. Aliens usually come down to that room with stairs sooner or later...also don't forget to sweep rest of map, they might be hiding out there too.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Duke on September 14, 2010, 10:08:37 pm
So now i've just noticed the error is on tropical maps as I could go upstairs on a cold map. 
Is there ways around this?
Does the 2.3 package you DLed contain a ufo2map.exe ?
If so, you could get just the file tr_craft_ufo_harvester.map (230 kB unzipped), compile it, and the problem should be gone.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 10:38:23 pm
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If so, you could get just the file tr_craft_ufo_harvester.map (230 kB unzipped), compile it, and the problem should be gone.

Yes it actually does... :D

This seems like what I need to do, questions... where do  get this file and what compiler do I need to implement it? (or is it even more simpler, or is their an readme/info/how-to?)

Thanks this might just be the help I needed

 :D :D
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Duke on September 14, 2010, 10:54:11 pm
ufo2map.exe *is* the mapcompiler.

Did you have to compile the maps after installing your DLed 2.3 package ? Like starting compile_maps.bat or make maps.mk ?

Are you on Windoze or linux ?

Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 11:01:05 pm
Windows xp, but, just until I get a copy of linux.  Is been at least 6 years since I've been online (on going gf relationship) I dont know whats changed or whatever....  Unsure what distro to get but Ubunutu (unsure if thats the correct spelling) seems to be the one on distrowatch ive noticed recently.

Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Duke on September 14, 2010, 11:08:36 pm
Sorry, can't help with linux distros.

What about the other question in my previous post ?
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 11:15:43 pm
I didnt have to complile any maps as far as im aware of... I cant find a compile_maps.bat, and maybe i need to look harder but as far as i can find is C:\Program Files\UFOAI-2.3\base\maps\tropic\tr_craft_ufo_harvester.map but its (288 KB) and not (230 kB unzipped)
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Duke on September 14, 2010, 11:45:38 pm
Ok, here is a zip of the harvester.
- unpack it (you make backups, don't you ?)
- delete the harvester.bsp
- open a cmd.exe
- change to c:\ufoai
- type ufo2map maps/tropic (note the slash here !)
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 14, 2010, 11:50:29 pm
Thank you soo much

Its good to find someone that can actually take the time to help.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Duke on September 15, 2010, 12:07:13 am
There are many more that can and will help you :)
It's just that at *this* time of the day I'm almost the only one around ;)

Did you manage to compile the map ?
I'd suggest you play a little skirmish +tropic and see if you can enter the 2nd floor of the harvester...
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 18, 2010, 01:00:16 pm
I truely cant find any file named harvester.bsp  :'(
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: H-Hour on September 18, 2010, 01:10:02 pm
C:\Program Files\UFOAI-2.3\base\maps\tropic\tr_craft_ufo_harvester.map

That's the map file you need to replace, and when you run ufoai from the cmd line, follow the steps Duke said, but I added something in bold to the cmd:

Ok, here is a zip of the harvester.
- unpack it (you make backups, don't you ?)
- delete the harvester.bsp
- open a cmd.exe
- change to c:\ufoai
- type ufo2map maps/tropic/tr_craft_ufo_harvester.map (note the slash here !)
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 18, 2010, 02:01:44 pm
Well it seemed to compile

(http://)

However th second screenshot proves otherwise. their is no blue square letting me know i can enter that room

(http://)
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: H-Hour on September 18, 2010, 03:37:59 pm
I just checked the 2.4 map and it seems alright there. Try compiling the attached .map file instead. I'm having mattn check if it needs to be merged to 2.3.1. I've lost track of all the harvester changes now...
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 18, 2010, 04:10:41 pm
Nope didnt work., Wonder if I could delete the tropic map its effecting
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: H-Hour on September 18, 2010, 04:37:20 pm
Shouldn't matter. Don't delete the BSP file, but try moving it out of the folder somewhere and then try compiling. Not sure why it wouldn't work though.
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: EazY on September 18, 2010, 07:14:44 pm
Well I havent came across a Tropical scenario so far (quick fix, maybe)
Title: Re: ???Up stairs in the alien ships???
Post by: Precisionist on October 08, 2010, 02:58:14 am
If you would do a little search before posting, you'd know it's known bug and is being worked on...

Wow what a helpful response.  If I ran a company I'd hire this guy to run my Customer Service in a heartbeat.

Seriously though, it is an annoying bug but here is what I do when I get it:
I place guys around the central stairs all on RF.
Have one guy shoot up the stairs (doesnt need to be at an alien, just a wall).
Move the shooter behind a wall.

Usually some sort of noise, like a shot, will get them to come down the stairs.  Dont use a grenade :)  because if you miss you might hurt someone.  I ended up blowing 3 of my own guys up doing that.

If that doesnt work, sometimes having your entire crew exit the UFO can get them to come down.