UFO:Alien Invasion

Development => Artwork => Topic started by: sitters on December 25, 2009, 02:11:49 pm

Title: New models
Post by: sitters on December 25, 2009, 02:11:49 pm: Here the alien breath device.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/alienb.jpg)

The link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/alien_breath.rar

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: theotherhiveking on December 25, 2009, 05:22:57 pm: Yay! Sexy!
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 25, 2009, 05:40:39 pm: thank you very much willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on December 25, 2009, 10:21:30 pm: Ooh, nice. Very pretty work, sitters.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on December 26, 2009, 09:02:04 am: Thanks,

Here a SAM defence unit 20 rockets,

If it's OK I texture it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher.jpg)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 26, 2009, 11:34:14 am: looks cool - nice work
Title: Re: New models
Post by: geever on December 26, 2009, 01:24:25 pm: Our aa51 has only 8 rockets now and it can change if gameplay balance requires it. Unfortunately the map of Missile Battery shows rockets too which can confilct with the real number of ammos scripted.

I would also note that aa51 launcher is installed into missile battery slots, I don't think they have such a standing.

Of course Winter has the last word on this.
And I really like your models! ;)

-geever
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on December 26, 2009, 01:33:59 pm: Quote from: sitters on December 26, 2009, 09:02:04 am
Thanks,

Here a SAM defence unit 20 rockets,

If it's OK I texture it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher.jpg)

That's great, would make a nice prop for military base maps.

Mattn, do we have a geoscape model for the SAM Site yet? If not, sitters, it'd be great to have another one with a much larger missile chamber, if you've got the time?

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on December 27, 2009, 11:52:59 am: Here the SAM launcher with 34 rockets.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher1.jpg)

The link :

www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher.rar
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 12:12:41 pm: great - thank you very much willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: H-Hour on December 27, 2009, 12:27:07 pm: If it's wanted for maps, I could rebuild it as a UFORadiant prefab without too much trouble (that is, if it was alright with Sitters). I really like the texture.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 12:54:18 pm: that would be nice, too - as we would use this model in the base defense tiles later.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 12:58:57 pm: Quote from: Winter on December 26, 2009, 01:33:59 pm
Mattn, do we have a geoscape model for the SAM Site yet? If not, sitters, it'd be great to have another one with a much larger missile chamber, if you've got the time?

no, there is not yet a geoscape model for the sam sites. i hope willem is doing that one, too (a lot less in polycount and reduced to the main parts that are visible when showing small models on the 3d geoscape). but this one is for the menu display when equipping base defenses and it's perfect for this imo (and already integrated into the game).
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 01:44:55 pm: btw. H-Hour - keep in mind that you have to split the samlauncher into a two part model if you make a prefab for it. (as it is higher than on ufoai level)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on December 27, 2009, 03:53:37 pm: This can be the laser unit.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/lasera.jpg)

If It's OK I texture it.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on December 27, 2009, 05:25:00 pm: Quote from: sitters on December 27, 2009, 11:52:59 am
Here the SAM launcher with 34 rockets.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher1.jpg)

The link :

www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samlauncher.rar

Hey sitters, that's looking awesome. I'm sorry for not explaining this properly before (I've got a huge cold that's messing with my head) but what we really need is an enlarged version of the launcher for much larger missiles. Would that be possible? Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 07:41:31 pm: Quote from: sitters on December 27, 2009, 03:53:37 pm
(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/lasera.jpg)
If It's OK I texture it

looks good as base defense item - thanks

but as geoscape model... a litte bit less details would be nice (as they are a lot smaller on the geoscape)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: geever on December 27, 2009, 08:07:32 pm: Quote from: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 07:41:31 pm
looks good as base defense item - thanks

but as geoscape model... a litte bit less details would be nice (as they are a lot smaller on the geoscape)

We have samsites only (rocket) no external beam defences ATM.

-geever
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on December 27, 2009, 08:18:20 pm: Quote from: geever on December 27, 2009, 08:07:32 pm
We have samsites only (rocket) no external beam defences ATM.

-geever

We can incorporate external beam/cannon sites if wanted, but I don't think it's a good idea. Takes too much of the focus away from bases/interceptions.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 27, 2009, 09:41:59 pm: Quote from: geever on December 27, 2009, 08:07:32 pm
We have samsites only (rocket) no external beam defences ATM.

-geever

its the model for:
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** {{open}} Item model for base defence Laser Turret
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on December 28, 2009, 08:55:36 am: Replacement for the TR20 Rocket

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/tr20_rocket.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/tr20_rocket.rar
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on December 28, 2009, 01:37:42 pm: thanks - they are looking a lot better
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 01, 2010, 11:36:35 am: Here the laser unit.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/laser1.jpg)

The link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/laser.rar
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 01, 2010, 11:39:52 am: Here one with big rockets,

You like it, I texture it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/sam2.jpg)

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 01, 2010, 05:27:32 pm: Quote from: sitters on January 01, 2010, 11:39:52 am
Here one with big rockets,

You like it, I texture it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/sam2.jpg)

Willem

That's absolutely brilliant, sitters. Love to have it.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 01, 2010, 05:56:56 pm: nice job again - please also make one rocket isolated as single model and single texture - thanks
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 01, 2010, 09:58:38 pm: Great ;)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 02, 2010, 05:49:32 pm: Here the SAM launcher with big rockets.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/sam2a.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/sam2a.rar

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 02, 2010, 05:55:36 pm: I'll love building them around my bases! ;)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 02, 2010, 06:59:16 pm: Thanks,

And a single rocket.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/rocket.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/rocket.rar
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 02, 2010, 11:35:39 pm: thank you again willem - both are in our repos - nice job
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 03, 2010, 01:11:07 pm: Here a Ammo box 20mm

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ammo.jpg)

link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ammo.rar

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 03, 2010, 02:39:50 pm: looks nice - can you please also provide a normalmap?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 03, 2010, 05:40:01 pm: Quote from: Mattn on January 03, 2010, 02:39:50 pm
looks nice - can you please also provide a normalmap?

Yeah,

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ammoNormal.rar
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 03, 2010, 06:53:44 pm: Ammo for the machine gun? ;) I like this one much better than the drum magazine.

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 03, 2010, 07:15:24 pm: thank you again willem - commited
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 03, 2010, 09:45:57 pm: Quote from: Viento on January 03, 2010, 06:53:44 pm
Ammo for the machine gun? ;) I like this one much better than the drum magazine.

Andy

. . . No. The Machine Gun fires 4.7mm caseless rounds. Those are 20mm shells for the SHIVA cannon.

sitters, would you mind making one or more recolours for different versions of the SHIVA ammo? That'd be really helpful.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 04, 2010, 07:34:19 am: Quote from: Winter on January 03, 2010, 09:45:57 pm
. . . No. The Machine Gun fires 4.7mm caseless rounds. Those are 20mm shells for the SHIVA cannon.

sitters, would you mind making one or more recolours for different versions of the SHIVA ammo? That'd be really helpful.

Regards,
Winter

Here skins of 4 different colours of ammo

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ammocolor.rar

And here the simple representation of the sam launcher for the 3d geoscape,
138 triangles.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samgeo.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/samgeo.rar

And this is maybe a better symbol for the radar on the 3d geoscape.
You like it I, texture it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/radar.jpg)

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 09, 2010, 07:25:26 pm: Sorry guys,

When I don't get a answer then I stop again for a wile.

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 09, 2010, 08:19:02 pm: I like both! ;)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Bartleby on January 09, 2010, 09:34:18 pm: Quote from: sitters on January 09, 2010, 07:25:26 pm
When I don't get a answer then I stop again for a wile.
*shock*
noooo - ure works are all great and so much work left. cant wait to see more.
normally they bring all ure models into the game as soon as posted here. so maybe they are just busy atm.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: vedrit on January 09, 2010, 10:03:50 pm: and the rest of us tend to not say anything, as we dont make the final say
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 09, 2010, 10:33:31 pm: I've had a busy couple of days and forgot to reply. Sorry.

The geoscape SAM site is great, happy to have it.

The radar dish doesn't feel quite right to me. A tower with a ball on the top seems like a better symbol for radar. However, if textured we might be able to use it for something else at some point, never can tell!

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 11, 2010, 06:15:41 pm: OK, maybe this is a nice one.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/radar1.jpg)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 11, 2010, 07:59:11 pm: the automatic scaling would work a little bit better if the ground plate would be a little bit bigger (not much, but only a little maybe?)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 11, 2010, 08:14:04 pm: Quote from: sitters on January 11, 2010, 06:15:41 pm
OK, maybe this is a nice one.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/radar1.jpg)

With Mattn's suggestions, I think it'd work very well. Thanks, sitters!

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 11, 2010, 09:32:35 pm: Great. I thing that tells people intuitively that this is a radar station. :)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: rynait on January 12, 2010, 02:22:12 am: Hello,

the radar tower looks nice, the your radome (ball) looks different, being based on pentagon shape giving less geometric "depth".

However suggest increasing some number of pentagon or use skin to stimulate the ball surface

here is a wiki of an geodesic radome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radome

I just happen to google for radome and found an "geometry" drawing of current radome manufacturer that might be useful. this web site has photograph of both pentagon based and triangular based (lot of details).

http://www.radome.net/dsfradome.html

Roy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: vedrit on January 12, 2010, 06:33:05 am: Considering this is going to be on the global view, where there will be countless other polygons being rendered, lit, etc, adding more is not a good idea, especially since this is going to be an icon, of sorts. I think its good the way it is
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 12, 2010, 02:36:13 pm: Actually the radar station that I was guarding while doing military service had almost exactly the shape of the model. Don't change it, I think it looks perfect.

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 13, 2010, 09:07:56 pm: Try it out. ;)

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/radar2.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/radar2.rar

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 13, 2010, 09:35:41 pm: thank you very much willem - commited to trunk
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 14, 2010, 08:31:18 pm: A suggestion for the UFO Yard,

Just a open space with a camouflaged roof.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ufoyard.jpg)

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 14, 2010, 08:36:43 pm: i like that - it's unique enough for a geoscape model - not sure what Winter says, though.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 14, 2010, 08:42:01 pm: It looks futuristic (and in my opinion quite solid, not just like a "tent" or just camoflage nets). Yet it doesn't look stable enough to survive an air-to-ground bombing by ufos (which sometimes happens in the game), so I think it fits quite well in my imagination. ;)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 15, 2010, 01:34:49 am: 100% approved, in my opinion. No complaints whatsoever.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 15, 2010, 01:36:13 pm: Maybe this looks good in the game.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ufoyard1.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/ufoyard1.rar

Do you need more stuff for the Gscape ??

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Kildor on January 15, 2010, 02:06:03 pm: terror site? Crashed UFOs?

And obvious we need model for alien base.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 15, 2010, 06:04:02 pm: thank you very much willem, will go into the svn asap.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Destructavator on January 15, 2010, 10:34:14 pm: Sitters, is there anything you can't model? (Seriously!) ;D

BTW, If I keep at what I've been doing lately with modeling, you might start to have a little competition in a few years or so, give or take:

http://ufoai.ninex.info/forum/index.php?topic=4306.msg33393#msg33393
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 16, 2010, 09:52:53 am: Quote from: Destructavator on January 15, 2010, 10:34:14 pm
Sitters, is there anything you can't model? (Seriously!) ;D

BTW, If I keep at what I've been doing lately with modeling, you might start to have a little competition in a few years or so, give or take:

http://ufoai.ninex.info/forum/index.php?topic=4306.msg33393#msg33393

I have learn a lot last years, now i don't have much limits anymore with modeling.
Only always have the problem where I model for, ( games ) it must be so bloody low poly.

I more like model the details, then painting them,
especially with one material ( it looks 100 times better ).

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 16, 2010, 09:54:22 am: maybe a nice icon for the alien base.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/alienbase.jpg)

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 16, 2010, 09:59:45 am: nice - let's see this textured please ;)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 16, 2010, 10:03:05 am: if you could do something about the crashed ufo sites that would be quite nice, too. maybe you can use the geoscape models from http://ufoai.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/base/models/geoscape/ - we don't need one for every kind of ufo - we just need a wreck of an ufo in a form that nobody can really say which ufo it was. Doing the same for the dropships would be cool, too - we don't have dropship rescue missions yet, but they will come at one point, and having the model for this already then would help us a lot.

thanks again for all your work.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 16, 2010, 12:21:08 pm: I like the alien base model. I was thinking about how to do it because these bases should be normally well-hidden, but one can't model a well-hidden building and place it on the geoscape. So I think the approach (designing something that looks "alien" and "futuristic") works quite well! :)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 16, 2010, 09:14:33 pm: Here the textured one,

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/alienbase1.jpg)

link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/alienbase1.rar

Yea I make a crashed UFO site icon.

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 16, 2010, 09:30:22 pm: thanks willem - looks really nice - will be added to svn tomorrow.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 17, 2010, 08:43:24 am: something like this for a UFO crashed

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/crash.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/crash.rar

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 08:56:47 am: wow - fantastic, a really nice job (i should save this sentence somewhere ;) )
Title: Re: New models
Post by: misiek on January 17, 2010, 09:50:13 am: Sitters, your models are really great :)

After you'll finish all remain models (;)), maybe you could look at current models and try to create better versions for them?

I don't know what Ufo: ai team thinks about it, but i think that it's always good to replace art with better looking version (like in battle of wesnoth).
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 10:03:11 am: just found some other todos:

/** @todo Should be a special story related mission model */
story related missions should somehow be marked as important missions.

/** @todo each category should have a its own model */
categories are:
INTERESTCATEGORY_RECON
INTERESTCATEGORY_XVI
INTERESTCATEGORY_HARVEST
INTERESTCATEGORY_TERROR_ATTACK
INTERESTCATEGORY_BUILDING

those are nothing 2.3 critical - but would be nice to have models.

i will also add them to the wiki todo list.

[edit]
http://ufoai.ninex.info/wiki/index.php/TODO/General#Artwork
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Kildor on January 17, 2010, 11:25:49 am: sitters, wow!

Please, can you make some eastern-style, japan or chinese models? «+japan» assembly needs in big sculpture (eastern lion or dragon), and Chinese lanterns. And, fantail to wall.
(I hope I`m not so annoying? ;-) )
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 17, 2010, 11:37:16 am: I look what I can do. ;)

Here a other crash.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/crashn.jpg)

Link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/crashn.rar

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 17, 2010, 11:47:17 am: Quote from: Kildor on January 17, 2010, 11:25:49 am
sitters, wow!

Please, can you make some eastern-style, japan or chinese models? «+japan» assembly needs in big sculpture (eastern lion or dragon), and Chinese lanterns. And, fantail to wall.
(I hope I`m not so annoying? ;-) )

Yeah, this is a nice theme for a new model-pack for my site.

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 11:52:52 am: willem, you know what? we are currently thinking about redesigning the geoscape a little bit to bring your excellent models more into the foreground. but if we do that, we would also need a new model for the phalanx base.... - you know what i wanted to "ask"? :-D
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 12:11:14 pm: btw. could you please align the model ground plate to the origin vector for further models?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Borsti67 on January 17, 2010, 02:08:58 pm: Just one question regarding the alien base (although I like it very much):
The base is somewhat large, so isn't it a little much noticeable? I think the aliens would want to do some camouflage, too - probably in another fashion like we do (UFO yard), but anyway not with glowing marks to be seen easily from a distance...?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 02:28:21 pm: that's only an icon... it has nothing to do with a real alien base
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Borsti67 on January 17, 2010, 03:29:45 pm: oh, I misunderstood that. Thanks for explanation!
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 17, 2010, 04:04:01 pm: maybe a nice icon for the phalanx base.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/Base.jpg)

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Bartleby on January 17, 2010, 04:07:49 pm: Quote from: sitters on January 17, 2010, 04:04:01 pm
maybe a nice icon for the phalanx base.
willem
the spire in the middle looks a bit like its from the alien base.
the antennas are good, but maybe make the tower.. whats the word? square? (like one of the world trade center was. or like an airport-tower) and the highest tower not in middle like alien base.
EDIT: well... i guess it will look completly different with textures.. anyhow. great works again =).
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 17, 2010, 04:13:14 pm: i like it - imo it would fit - let's see this textured ;)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Viento on January 17, 2010, 04:36:03 pm: Looks human-built and some of the installations (radar, command Center) are visible. I recognize the base intuitively. So, well done! ;)

Andy
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 18, 2010, 03:56:45 pm: Nice work on all of these, sitters! I think the PHALANX base will live or die by its texture, but I can't imagine sitters delivering a less than awesome tex. I say go ahead.

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on January 23, 2010, 10:17:02 am: Without a concept, it's always a personal taste. :)

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/base1.jpg)

The link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/base1.rar

willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on January 23, 2010, 10:04:19 pm: beautiful willem - will go into svn in a minute
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Winter on January 28, 2010, 04:45:01 pm: Quote from: sitters on January 23, 2010, 10:17:02 am
Without a concept, it's always a personal taste. :)

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/base1.jpg)

The link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/base1.rar

willem

Works for me, mate!

Regards,
Winter
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on February 12, 2010, 05:05:56 pm: Quote from: Kildor on January 17, 2010, 11:25:49 am
sitters, wow!

Please, can you make some eastern-style, japan or chinese models? «+japan» assembly needs in big sculpture (eastern lion or dragon), and Chinese lanterns. And, fantail to wall.
(I hope I`m not so annoying? ;-) )

Here some Japanese stuff.

some old models of me and some new

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/japanese.jpg)

link :

http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/japanese.rar

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: freegamer on February 13, 2010, 12:22:48 am: Sitters, I encourage you to upload some of your models such as your Japanese / sculpture models, to www.OpenGameArt.org (http://www.OpenGameArt.org) as they would be a valuable addition there.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on February 13, 2010, 09:59:03 am: Quote from: freegamer on February 13, 2010, 12:22:48 am
Sitters, I encourage you to upload some of your models such as your Japanese / sculpture models, to www.OpenGameArt.org (http://www.OpenGameArt.org) as they would be a valuable addition there.

If people like my models they can download them from my site,
there are more then 500 models there and still growing.

http://www.md2.sitters-electronics.nl/
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Kildor on February 14, 2010, 07:38:11 am: Cool! Thanks a lot for this.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 22, 2010, 11:28:29 am: sitters, thanks for helping here, your models are great !!! :D

To the developers: I think sitters is allowing the UFO: AI project to use all of his models ( http://www.md2.sitters-electronics.nl/ ) :o
I think it would be a great idea to integrate many of them into UFORadiant (prefabs). I would do it, but I do not know how :'(
I think sitters' models would be a valuable addition to the prefabs of UFORadiant & very helpful for the mapbuilders...
If someone could give me a detailed step-by-step instruction how to update UFORadiant with the models I would be glad to do it...
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on February 22, 2010, 01:16:50 pm: we are already using a lot of them - but here is a small tutorial on what must be done for adding new prefabs: http://ufoai.ninex.info/wiki/index.php/Mapping/Prefabs
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 22, 2010, 01:31:22 pm: Thanks for the tutorial. I've already read this.
But how do I get a *.map file, when I have a *.md2 or *.obj file, with the texture in a *.bmp file with the same name !?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on February 22, 2010, 03:21:18 pm: you have to create a map with the md2 file - see the mapping section in the wiki - look for misc_model and actorclips, weaponclips and nodraw.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 22, 2010, 04:15:51 pm: Okay, I think I've got it. 8)
First I have to check out that the *.obj file has its texture in *.jpg, *.tga or *.png.
Then I have to copy the files into the ufoaisrc folder under base/models.
Then I have to open UFORadiant.
There I have to go to entities & doubleclick misc_model & wait.
Now I can choose my new model, which should be displayed with the correct texture.
After clicking ok, I have the new model in UFORadiant.
Now I can save the new model as *.map & can copy this *.map file into UFORadiant-1.5/prefabs.
After Relaunching UFORadiant I have a new prefab :o

Some problems still remain:

1. How can I check if the prefab has the correct texture in UFORadiant, the preview window only shows the wireframe ?

2. Some objects seem to get holes here & there when applying the texture in misc_model !?
If I have a model as *.md2 & *.obj with a texture in *.jpg or *.tga, in misc_model only the *.obj will get textured, but sometimes with errors (holes), but the *.md2 will be displayed correctly, but without the texture ?! How can I correct this or what is my error ?

3. Which is the quickest way to generate the 128x100 preview pictures of the prefabs ?

Thanks for your patience with me !
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on February 22, 2010, 04:30:20 pm: you can use the md2.pl script from trunk/src/tools to change the skin name - the guideline here is to change the skin to ".texturename" (starting with a dot - not extension. after that md2 files will have skins, too

i've done screenshots and cut the stuff with gimp to the final size. there is automatic way to do this yet.

preview window only shows them in wireframe?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 22, 2010, 05:14:59 pm: UFORadiant shows only the wireframes with some red color where the textures should be when I use any of the prefabs ?! :'(
But when I load a *.map all the textures are displayed...
When starting UFORadiant it complains about libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll missing, but then it starts & seems to work okay. Maybe the 2 problems are somehow connected ?!
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 28, 2010, 02:08:23 pm: Okay, I see that there is no time for stupid questions to get answered here, I understand that ;)
The red color in UFORadiant shows the selected brush of course :P - I am still a newbie here :-[

Still do not know why UFORadiant complains about libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll missing - Can anyone help here ???

Other question: Wouldn't it be nice for the leveldesigners & mappers to expand the prefabs database in UFORadiant & to build a new UFORadiant-package !? Sitters models are awesome & there should be more of them integrated in the mapping tool !!! ;D

I am not suggesting more work for the developers here, but would be pleased to integrate sitters models into UFORadiant if the developers agree that this would be helpful for the project ?! What do the developers & mappers think about that ?
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Kildor on February 28, 2010, 02:21:19 pm: Please, be on-topic, your questions not for this topic.

You don`t need to use prefabs only, you can add models manually via RMB in sideviews.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on February 28, 2010, 04:16:15 pm: Quote from: Kildor on February 28, 2010, 02:21:19 pm
Please, be on-topic, your questions not for this topic.
I will ask my question about UFORadiant somewhere else, sorry 'bout that !

Quote from: Kildor on February 28, 2010, 02:21:19 pm
You don`t need to use prefabs only, you can add models manually via RMB in sideviews.

Thanks for the information, I thought this was possible only through misc_model. Seems you are a real mapping-expert, Kildor 8)
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Kildor on March 01, 2010, 09:18:56 am: Yes, this (adding models to maps) is possible only via misc_model. But you are able to add misc_model manually, without prefabs. Just don`t forget about clipping brushes (nodraw, actor|weapon- clips), model flags and so on.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on April 05, 2010, 12:55:38 pm: sometimes I must exercise my modelling skills.

I make two characters a man and woman, maybe you can use it.

(http://www.sitters-electronics.nl/md2/models/proto.jpg)

Willem
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on April 05, 2010, 01:40:49 pm: if you could provide some skin(s) for them .... ;)

i would do the animation.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: MCR on April 05, 2010, 02:16:14 pm: Hey sitters, or should I write Willem :-\ ?!
I love your models & just wanted to say a big thanx from my side for all the time you have invested in this project already.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!

I have looked @ all the models you offer to download on your homepage & have to tell you a thing that you probably already know of:

You really got some skills, man ! ;D
Title: Re: New models
Post by: H-Hour on April 05, 2010, 04:20:17 pm: Very nice.
Title: Re: New models
Post by: sitters on April 06, 2010, 09:00:18 am: Quote from: Mattn on April 05, 2010, 01:40:49 pm
if you could provide some skin(s) for them .... ;)

i would do the animation.

What kind of skins you like, civilian, armored soldiers ??
Title: Re: New models
Post by: Mattn on April 06, 2010, 03:33:44 pm: civs would be very cool - the more the better - if you could make some with ticker stomach to add a little bit of variation that would be even cooler - please don't forget to split of the head btw.