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Offtopic => Offtopic => Topic started by: Mariaz on May 25, 2010, 08:24:28 am

Title: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Mariaz on May 25, 2010, 08:24:28 am: I have been really really looking for ways truck drivers can make a difference.

We cleaned up parking lots by picking up a little trash each time we walked across the lot. In just a short time the difference was visible to anyone looking.

So today the problem is the economy of the entire world. But for us the economy of the USA is where to start.

So what little steps can we take as we cling by our fingernails to our jobs driving less and less freight?

I hope many people will come up with ideas, but I have one to start the discussion. If 20 people read what I say and make one decision a day based on it, only a little will change, BUT f those same 20 people tell 2 other people, and those 2 people make one decision a day, and tell two other people, in a short time we can make a HUGE difference in what is going on in this country.

I went shopping for instant hot apple cider mix today. I am delivering tomorrow beside a VON'S grocery store so I went there. I saw the same alpine brand I usually buy from Walmart on the shelves, but beside it I saw boxes of safe way brand apple cider mix. ( for half the price of the alpine.)

This seamed like a lot of difference so I smugly assumed the Alpine brand would be made in USA and the Safe way brand would be imported. I stopped to look at the boxes. WOW the SAFE WAY brand had product of USA on the box, the alpine brand had distributed by..yada yada but never said product of anywhere.

This got me thinking, so after looking at the hot coco, and finding the safe way store brand labeled product of USA and the nestles etc all saying distributed by..... I decided to look around the store, Every where I looked the store brands would say product of and it was usually the USA but not always, but the name brands would say distributed by.....

I went to the frozen fish because I had a rude shock in wally world a few weeks ago when every bit of frozen sea food was either product of China, or packaged in china. I found two brands of frozen fish product of USA in VON'S.

I checked canned beans and fruits, and the same story.

SO I found a way to make a difference, find product of USA labeled goods and tell everyone you can that they don't have to eat canned fruit from Asia, nor frozen shrimp from Asia, nor even foods from unknown places that don't what to tell you where they are. YOU can find food labeled in each can, on each box product of USA.. Look for them, buy them, and don't support the imported food suppliers. This one thing alone if done by enough people would force stores to bring jobs back to the USA.

What if we did the same about clothes, about anything we buy?

So Save America one shrimp or one hot dog or one pizza at a time.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: BTAxis on May 25, 2010, 09:49:05 am: You assume everyone reading this lives in America.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: geever on May 25, 2010, 11:39:30 am: Or maybe he is only a spammer(bot)...

-geever
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Hertzila on May 25, 2010, 01:39:42 pm: Maybe a spammer, but the other thread this guy made proves IMO that there is a human being behind the username (or spambot tech has gotten [way] better when I wasn't looking).

Anyway, in the case you are a human, I don't know about USA regulations but at least here in Finland, the "Made in Finland" or "Product of Finland" tag can be gained even if just the last phase of production was done here (aka, breads and cakes were baked here, machines and electronics assembled, canned food canned, etc.). A bad but effective way to fool customers where the product actually came from.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: BTAxis on May 25, 2010, 02:48:45 pm: Yeah, I thought he was maybe a spambot, but spambots usually try to post links to other stuff. And he DID post only in offtopic. It could be one of those bots that waits until it has gotten a reply, though.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Legendman3 on May 25, 2010, 03:03:57 pm: Remember the other bot? you got rid of his offtopic post then he spammed the whole forum with his viagra ads
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Duke on May 26, 2010, 11:59:05 pm: Spammer or not....The idea in the post is an economic policy that is very outdated. It's called 'protectionism'. It was very popular some 80-100 years ago. And didn't work.

There is a little bit of truth in it, though. But things are *much* more complicated than the poster suggests. Here's a little food of thought: What would happen if all US consumers would only buy american oil ?

btw you don't have to buy oil these days. You can collect it for free at the shores of Louisiana and Mississippi ! Florida coming up soon ! :(((
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Legendman3 on May 27, 2010, 03:31:37 am: Quote from: Duke on May 26, 2010, 11:59:05 pm
btw you don't have to buy oil these days. You can collect it for free at the shores of Louisiana and Mississippi ! Florida coming up soon ! :(((

Rofl In 2012 im going to emmidietly for my first real car get a electric one... or hydrogen.... Let offtopic this is but oh well
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Mariaz on May 27, 2010, 12:46:51 pm: Quote from: BTAxis on May 25, 2010, 02:48:45 pm
Yeah, I thought he was maybe a spambot, but spambots usually try to post links to other stuff. And he DID post only in offtopic. It could be one of those bots that waits until it has gotten a reply, though.

My Reply :- Hi all people its shocking to see that you people are thinking that I am a Bot or Spammer.
Believe me or not but I am a 24years old Human Being Living in America
(25H,North Street
Dealware, DE 19968, United States of America)

If you dont believe me still than you can come to my house and see weather I am a Bl**dy Human or a Spammer Bot.

Thanks a lot for that embarrasment......!!!
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Legendman3 on May 27, 2010, 02:11:06 pm: Quote from: Mariaz on May 27, 2010, 12:46:51 pm
Thanks a lot for that embarrasment......!!!

Your welcome
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: DiDiT on May 27, 2010, 06:56:07 pm: Well, you were a little... odd.
I mean, Coming on a forum that's about a OPEN-SOURCE game to talk about shrimps, assuming everyone's American.
Also, Giving away your age and address freely on-line... That's not safe, dude.

But, Like legendman's said, 'your welcome'.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: BTAxis on May 27, 2010, 07:08:09 pm: It's okay to start topics like that in offtopic, but it's a little strange that someone would do that first thing after registering. I mean, most people would join up because of UFO:AI, right?
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Legendman3 on May 27, 2010, 09:36:06 pm: Right. Thats how i started
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: geever on May 27, 2010, 09:38:05 pm: Quote from: Mariaz on May 27, 2010, 12:46:51 pm
If you dont believe me still than you can come to my house and see weather I am a Bl**dy Human or a Spammer Bot.

Hmm, I'm still not convinced you have quite suspicious signature. ;) :D

But seriously we have seen quite intelligent spambots recently, sorry. I've replied to your topic because I was not sure, thanks for clarifying.

the site linked in your signature however contained tons of ads and scripts, got removed.

-geever
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Destructavator on May 29, 2010, 02:47:50 am: Oh dear, a mistake like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

Yes, we have been fighting and deleting a lot of very convincing spam-bots lately, they're getting progressively trickier and more difficult to identify.

Welcome to the forum, I'm sorry your initial experience here was so... awkward, not to mention embarrassing.

In light of this, perhaps there should be a note on the project page near the link to the forum, or a sticky in the forum somewhere noticeable, that newcomers should first introduce themselves and say something relevant to UFO: AI to avoid being misidentified as a spam bot. (As opposed to starting out in the off-topic section right off the bat, and not even mentioning the game in the very first post.)

EDIT: Delaware? I'm actually not too far away, just in northeast Ohio. If my 10-year-old Toyota was in better shape I likely could come over, pop in and say Hi if I really wanted to...

I'd have to cross several states, but it would certainly be closer than most other forum members here.
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Prinegon on May 29, 2010, 11:21:15 pm: Wow, you totally convinced me! Buying stuff from the neighbourhood and also saving my country labors is a great idea. I will tell all my friends and relatives...
...too bad for you, I live in Germany, so my decision to support local production will be negative for the american jobmarket :-P

Okay, lets get serious. There is sence in the idea to prefer local products over imports. Not only you can be sure the products are made under the rules of your own country (well, as sure as you can get without having a real proof), however products imported may have less quality criteria than products made in your country (in germany, imports follow european quality standards that normaly are not so strict than german standards). You also can help environment if your buying decision prevents unnecessary transportations.
But as already said, this may work for deciding if you buy a local potato or one from spain (or italy, if you come from spain :P ), but for most of the products this just doesn't work. You just cannot grow a orange in finland, e.g. (or at least grow one with reasonable production costs). Bringing the knowhow to build, lets say microwaves in each and every country, so everyone could buy a local produced microwave instead of a import will also proove unefficient. And I really doubt Bayer will relinquish on their Nexavar patent, so this pills can by produced by every country on its own (what doesn't inhibit India from doing so, but thats a different story).
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Legendman3 on May 30, 2010, 02:32:58 am: Quote from: Destructavator on May 29, 2010, 02:47:50 am
I'd have to cross several states, but it would certainly be closer than most other forum members here.

In a week or two im gonna be taking a road trip near his area and probably stay in New York for awhile so your not one of the close ones :P. (My half cent)
Title: Re: Saving America 1 shrimp at a time.
Post by: Duke on June 01, 2010, 01:03:34 am: Prinegon,
I fully agree. Just let me add:
Quote from: Prinegon on May 29, 2010, 11:21:15 pm
...You also can help environment if your buying decision prevents unnecessary transportations.
Literally true. But you can easily get fooled by your own misperceptions. I recently learned that a New Zeeland apple can be more CO2-effective than a home-grown one in Germany. Depends on the season.

Harvested in Germany in August, stored in a special refrigerated warehouse, eaten in April.
The CO2 needed for the warehouse can easily exceed the CO2 needed for the shipping from New Zeeland !

As I already said, it can be amazingly complicated for a consumer to do the right thing :(