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Archive => Bugs prior to release 2.3 => Topic started by: Duke on July 03, 2009, 11:59:36 pm

Title: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 03, 2009, 11:59:36 pm
For more than a hundred revisions now when I start a skirmish game, my team is without any weapons, armor etc.

I didn't see any bug report on this.
So is it just me ? Did I miss some change ? Am I doing something wrong ?
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Destructavator on July 04, 2009, 04:38:31 am
I haven't seen this issue, and I use skirmish for quick tests of builds.

Then again, I use the default "multiplayer_initial" for the equipment list when I start a skirmish game.

This probably isn't the answer to your problem, but as a long shot:  Have you tried deleting the config files in your application data folder between revisions?  More than half the time when I update and re-compile everything that solves various issues for me.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 04, 2009, 09:11:13 pm
I use "multiplayer_initial" too. Tried others, but to no avail.

I deleted config.cfg, keys.cfg,... but it didn't help either.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Destructavator on July 04, 2009, 10:17:39 pm
Yeah, I figured that wouldn't fix the bug, but mentioned it just in case I was wrong.

This bug you're experiencing does sound strange - I've tried installing the latest SVN copy on two of my Windows computers, as well as a Linux install as well, and I can't seem to reproduce the issue.

I'm afraid I really have no idea where the problem is coming from.   :(
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 04, 2009, 11:15:02 pm
Well, thx anyway :)
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 05, 2009, 11:14:34 pm
Found it ?
I forgot to build the game.dll.
At least it works again (R25015).
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: odie on July 06, 2009, 08:03:23 am
Found it ?
I forgot to build the game.dll.
At least it works again (R25015).

Duke, being curious, u have to manually build the game.dll?

I thought the CB does it for u when u rebuild / build workspace? (At least i always clean my workspace and then rebuild for every build for codes, and time to time for maps.)

U are on 32bits / 64 bits windows are u? (Aka Xp and Vista respectively.)
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 06, 2009, 09:35:56 pm
Thanks for the hint Odie :)
I'm new to CB and somehow overlooked the 'build workspace', maybe also because half a year ago 'build ufo' did that for me.

And yes, I'm on Vista 64.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Mattn on July 06, 2009, 10:08:39 pm
and that's correct. there should be a dep on the game.dll when you build ufo - maybe someone can fix that in the workspace?
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 07, 2009, 12:10:37 am
@Mattn:
So you don't use CB yourself ? What do you use ?
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: odie on July 07, 2009, 05:34:28 am
and that's correct. there should be a dep on the game.dll when you build ufo - maybe someone can fix that in the workspace?

Actually, there is one, Mattn. :D [See screenshot of Workspace File]

Dun think any fixing needs to be done there.

Btw, u do not use CB. U on Linux machines?
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: odie on July 07, 2009, 05:35:31 am
Thanks for the hint Odie :)
I'm new to CB and somehow overlooked the 'build workspace', maybe also because half a year ago 'build ufo' did that for me.

And yes, I'm on Vista 64.

No problem on that Duke. :D
Actually i dun use CB much also, except now if i need to see something in C or fiddle with some other C files ppl ask me for help with. :D

And Vista sux IMHO. Haha. I hate Vistas... actually anithing MS. :P
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Mattn on July 07, 2009, 08:16:42 am
@duke: I'm using eclipse + make
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Duke on July 07, 2009, 11:07:17 pm
@Odie:
XP does not fully support my brandnew i7 :-P
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Another Guy on July 07, 2009, 11:45:10 pm
Yep. XP suports a max of 2GB RAM as well.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: odie on July 08, 2009, 05:19:37 am
Yep. XP suports a max of 2GB RAM as well.

That is not true Another Guy, 2GB RAM is not true. I have assembled many machines with 4GB (we are talking abt at least 10 machines) with XP (pro or home).

I have one who has an even crazy 8GB Ram installed -.-" Dun ask me why he did it, he's filthy $$ loaded.
And it seemed to run......


@Odie:
XP does not fully support my brandnew i7 :-P

Ah Duke,

That sux...... Why is it so?? So far, i see XP seemed ok with most chips (though i dun use i7 chips at all before....)
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Destructavator on July 08, 2009, 06:02:30 am
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That is not true Another Guy, 2GB RAM is not true. I have assembled many machines with 4GB (we are talking abt at least 10 machines) with XP (pro or home).

I'm typing this right now on an XP machine with 4GB installed, although the OS only sees 3.5GB.  I admit, however, that I haven't tried to let a single running application access all of it at once, I remember from somewhere someone saying something about how a single app in XP can only use so much memory, although I haven't tested if this is true.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: Another Guy on July 08, 2009, 06:43:07 am
XP can't handle very well appz using more than 2GB RAM. However, OS won't simply pretend it doesn't exist, of couse. But overall, I agree: Vista sux. But it is a necessary evil.
Title: Re: Skirmish: Team without items ? (R24950)
Post by: odie on July 08, 2009, 06:55:03 am
I'm typing this right now on an XP machine with 4GB installed, although the OS only sees 3.5GB.  I admit, however, that I haven't tried to let a single running application access all of it at once, I remember from somewhere someone saying something about how a single app in XP can only use so much memory, although I haven't tested if this is true.

Ah, well, it should be correctly used for u then. U must not forget that there are such things as onboard graphics memory (if urs is not a dedicated graphics card - most common cause for <Max ram issue), pci cards / roms memory usage, and even controllers memory..... all these eat up some memory....

Hence, even with 4GB max installed, u might not have all of them for your pleasure.

And to answer the question on whether its possible for a single application to use 4GB - yes theorectically, but it would be insane. But this is not happening on XP, since max memory "handle-able" by XP is 2^32 = 4294967296b = 4194304kb = 4096MB = 4GB exactly (1GB = 1024MB, 1MB = 1024kb, 1kb = 1024b, b=bytes=8 bits)

Why? Cos XP is a 32bits application. Hence, Vista works more "efficiently" in theory than XP becos of this 64 bit capabilities. Then again, XP needs some about 750MB ram to run (as basic with SP3 and basic antivirus and firewalls), whilst vista requires a whopping close to 1.3GB-1.7GB to run efficiently (with SP and basic apps). So, unless u have 4GB XP vs 8GB Vista, u will hardly say which is better...... (And question is do u really need 64 bits app since most do not support it, drivers support sux and aint we hearing its being 'abandoned' for a new windows OS soon?)

For more on the 4GB thingy, see this (http://members.cox.net/slatteryt/RAM.html).



Edit - Another Guy, it is NOT a necessary evil. It is an absolutely redundant evil...... that should be eliminated. Lol.