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Development => Design => Topic started by: Malick on May 10, 2006, 02:13:34 pm

Title: Names
Post by: Malick on May 10, 2006, 02:13:34 pm
Hi all !

I thought that french names as they were not reflecting France population, but rather Canada's french Quebec names...

EDIT: I remove the commited name list. If you know more please post a new entry instead of editing the existing one. That's easier to track. Thanks Werner

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It's just a small contribution, i could add many more. It may be a good thing we all improve small aspects of the game like this ! All is in the details ;)

Cheers

EDIT: I added some more names, just for fun  :wink:

Malick
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 10, 2006, 03:54:49 pm
Many thanks, i've added the new ones to the names.ufo list, but i kept the existing ones as well, make for more diversity ;)

Werner
Title: Names
Post by: Malick on May 10, 2006, 03:59:04 pm
Hehe ok :) But we may call that list Canadian-French, cause no girl here has been called Evette for at least 200 years, same thing with last names ! Funny thing anyway ^^

Malick
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 10, 2006, 05:59:49 pm
Female Names:
Stefanie
Sandra
Ilona
Martina
Alexandra


Isabelle
Catherine
Anette
Christine


Lorena
Bianca
Julia
Carmella
Kyomi
Title: Names
Post by: Malick on May 10, 2006, 06:17:40 pm
I guess the more the merrier !

Keep 'em coming if you have some more :) UFO:AI won't be hurt by some variety...

Malick
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 10, 2006, 06:25:04 pm
@Killertomato:
Are those all french and/or canadian names (e.g Kyomi) ?

@Malick: since the "french"/"german"/etc... text in the .ufo file will never be displayed, but only the names themself it doesn't matter how it is called, just the combination of first and second name matters.

Werner
Title: Names
Post by: BTAxis on May 10, 2006, 06:40:47 pm
Kyomi isn't a name in any language, I think. It may be meant to sound Japanese, but it isn't. No Japanese girls are called Kyomi.
Title: Names
Post by: Malick on May 10, 2006, 06:43:57 pm
If I may shed some light on Killertomato's list for Hoehrer:

These are mostly italian names, in my opinion:
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Stefanie
Sandra
Ilona
Martina
Lorena
Bianca
Carmella


These are mostly french:
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Isabelle
Catherine
Anette
Christine


These can be found in many "western" or european countries:
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Julia
Alexandra


And the last one is mostly japanese, I believe.
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Kyomi


EDIT:  I know the country tag isn't shown anywhere, it was just to point it out.  :)

Malick
Title: Names
Post by: XCOMTurcocalypse on May 11, 2006, 12:47:07 am
Sibel
Cybil

whatever name emigrated from Greece to Europe,and returned 1000 years later.
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 11, 2006, 12:59:54 pm
Quote from: "Killertomato"
Female Names:
German:
Stefanie
Sandra
Ilona
Martina
Alexandra
Melanie

French:
Isabelle
Catherine
Anette
Christine
Monique
Dominique
Veronique

Spanish/Italian:
Lorena
Bianca
Julia
Carmella
Graciella
Simonetta
Sophia
Carmen
Marcella
Marina

English:
Diane
Rachel
Candice
Beverly
Christin
Holly
Mary-Jane
Karen
Suzanne

Japanese:
Kyomi
Shakiko

Chinese:
Zhen Shan


Sorry I was in a hurry and thought you could figure it out. :)
I added the origin in the quote of my former post and a few more names.
And BTAxis, you are wrong. Kyomi IS a japanese female name. One of our customers' name is Kyomi Ishii. Very nice lady, btw. :D
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 11, 2006, 01:19:57 pm
Male first names:
German:
Thomas
Klaus
Axel
Holger
Mathias
Andreas
Ulli
Henrik
Frank
Christian
Michael

French:
Jean Luc ;)
Guillaume
Henry

English:
Tim
Mark
Paul
Shawn
Evan
Phillip
Dennis
Al
Sam
Bruce


Spanish/Italian:
Emilio
Fabrizio
Bernardo
Claudio
Massimo
Giancarlo

Sandinavian:
Ottar
Ragnar
Magnus
Soeren
Ole-Gunnar

Japanese:
Matsuhiro
Kenjiro
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 11, 2006, 01:29:06 pm
Ok, i've comitted the rest of the names now.
I think we no not need a lot more german/french names, but everything else still needs some more variety.

Werner
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 11, 2006, 02:08:51 pm
Some family names:
German:
Stein
Schaefer
Klein
Winter
Benz
Berger
Tetzlaff
Sedlmaier

English:
Quinn
Taylor
Borland
Beckett
Michaels
Walker
Chandler
Mitchell
Black
Furlong
Campbell
Wayne

Spanish/Italian:
Estevez
Pizarro
Campagnolo
Meazzi
Di Cesare
Tomba
de Ramon Rius
de Tomaso
Mantovani

Scandinavian:
De Boer
Gustavson
Hjelset
Lerby
Fidjestoel
Heyerdal

Japanese:
Ishii
Sato
Takagi
Fujimoto
Tomihira
Matsumoto
Kurosawa
Title: Names
Post by: BTAxis on May 11, 2006, 02:18:45 pm
Quote from: "Killertomato"
And BTAxis, you are wrong. Kyomi IS a japanese female name. One of our customers' name is Kyomi Ishii. Very nice lady, btw. :D

Weeeerrrrlllll.... No. No she's not. She's called Kyoumi. This is not as much an indisputable fact as a preference of writing it. You see, It's common for Japanese words that use the "ou" sound to be written just with an o, or an o with an accent on top of it (Tokyo, for example is spelled Toukyou in Japanese, and a name like Ryousuke can appear as Ryôsuke). The reason for that is that "ou" is pronounced differently in most other languages, and so it avoids confusion. I take the view that this is wrong, and it should be written "ou" anyway.

The same goes for that infuriating ' character people tend to put between an n and a vowel (as in Jun'ko). The reason for that is that in Japanese, there are five characters starting with n and ending in a vowel: na, ni, nu, ne and no. However, there is also the character n. This n is pronounced separately, and people feel they need to indicate this with a ' character. Drives me up the wall, as it makes it looks like writing words with "n'" in them makes it somehow more Japanese-ey. Which is totally bollocks, as the Japanese don't usually use ' at all.

By the way, in Asian countries, names are usually written family name first, personal name second. So her name would be Isii Kyoumi. However, The Japanese tend to do it the western way when they spell names using the alphabet.
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 11, 2006, 02:48:15 pm
EDIT: REMINDER I'll not add any names that have been edited into older posts! Please write a new post.

Ok, please tune down the discussion of such minor details. I would hate it if drifts of into a flame-war and i'm forced to regulate it.

Concerning the correct writting of names. We'll probably have full support for UTF-8 soon, so if you really want to have the correct names/spelling use the original character set. I would then gladly add support for the "familyname-firstname" syntax.

Just for the record, now both "Kyomi" and "Kyoumi" are listed. Who said the buerocrats who maintain the Phalanx databases know how to spell all the names correctly?

Werner

On a related sidenote: I've seen many names in real life that look like typos or wrongly spelled names, but are the actual names. But this mostly happens with family names.
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 11, 2006, 03:11:36 pm
OK. So all names not in my initial post in a new post...
Female Names:
German:
Melanie

French:
Monique
Dominique
Veronique

Spanish/Italian:
Graciella
Simonetta
Sophia
Carmen
Marcella
Marina

English:
Diane
Rachel
Candice
Beverly
Christin
Holly
Mary-Jane
Karen
Suzanne

Japanese:
Shakiko

Chinese:
Zhen Shan

And to wrap up that topic: the correct spelling of my customer is Kiyomi. *blushes*
Title: Names
Post by: Malick on May 11, 2006, 03:16:16 pm
Ok, I'll add some arabic names, not that much though. If I ever made a mistake, I'd be glad to know, we learn something every day !

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names arabic
{
   female
   {
   Fareeda
   Fathia
   Fatima
   Aaliya
   Abia
   Meira
   Rasha
   Naiya
   Nadia
   Natara
   Hanna
   Essa
   Isa
   Amal
   Emel
   Ayar
   Badieh
   Dabab
   Damaa
   Ebra
   }
   
   male
   {
   Ali
   Kader
   Seif
   Tarik
   Aziz
   Mustaffa
   Abdel-Kader
   Abdul-Matin
   Abdul-Majid
   Abdul-Jalil
   Adham
   Dabrir
   Fakhir
   Farran
   Abdullah
   Abdalrahman
   Adish
   Ahmad
   Jassir
   Mahmoud
   Manuosh
   Rafi
   Namir
   Hasan
   Ahmed
   }

   lastname
   {
   "al Masri"
   Khaleq
   "Abu Rajab"
   "al Ghadban"
   "Jabr Solagh"
   "al Din"
   "al Hashimi"
   Mubarak
   Hassan
   Assar
   Hussein
   "al Hussein"
   Arafat
   Nasser
   Jabir
   Rasheed
   Sharif
   Sulaiman
   Zahar
   Bouzid
   Haqzouk
   "Reza Shebani"
   Ahmadi
   }
}


With all these names, this is gonna be quite a list ! ^^

Malick

BTW, I just read that Malick in arab means King. Now I know why I chose this nickname ! :D
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 11, 2006, 03:22:07 pm
More arabian female ones:
Farah
Soraya
Yasemine
Nurcan

Family Name:
ab del Farak
Title: Names
Post by: XCOMTurcocalypse on May 13, 2006, 03:23:35 pm
Using Arabs when there are plenty of Turks available for killing and dying? :roll:
Title: Names
Post by: BTAxis on May 13, 2006, 03:42:05 pm
Nobody wants to use Turkish soldiers. It's a pain to model all the moustaches.
Title: Names
Post by: XCOMTurcocalypse on May 13, 2006, 06:32:38 pm
:?:  :?

I don't have any.We're more like Greeks nowadays.

Bureaucracy is especially like in Italy.Ever see a macromedia flash show made by Bruno Buzzetto?Italy and EU?Thats us just as well...

So it would pump you with xp and level you up to deny the stereotype :)

HESITANT EDIT:I noticed that you are from Holland.The Turks over there are guys possess the least level of education,and culture of our country.They got there because most of them were useless here,and unemployed.

I trust every "uneducated" population class on earth can wake an unpleasant opinion in the country they have emigrated.

In short.They are not the real Turks.And I hope I'm not labeled as a racist pig........sieg heil :)
Title: Names
Post by: Killertomato on May 18, 2006, 02:55:19 pm
I took the liberty of peeking into then current names.ufo and saw that most names have been added to the list.
Any particular reason why the scandinavian, italian and english male first names were not? Or did you simply forget to add 'em?
Not that I complain. Just curious...
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 18, 2006, 07:59:13 pm
I just forgot to add them... fixed now.

Werner
Title: Names
Post by: rune on May 19, 2006, 02:04:00 pm
A few comments on the Scandinavian names:

Netherlands is not a part of Scandinavia, so the dutch names doesn't belong in that group.

The comments in the file says "Please do not use "...son" or "...dottir" as a family name yet, they are male/female-spezific". This is wrong. In modern Scandinavia names like Nilssen/Nilsson are not gender specific, and the dottir ending is generally not used. The exception is Iceland, but Iceland are usually not considered a part of Scandinavia. So I suggest that they are included again, preferably with a mix of ..son (Swedish) and ..sen (Norwegian/Danish) endings.

Soeren should be spelled Søren.

Here are some more Scandinavian names:

Male:
Gustaf/Gustav
Kristian/Christian
Henrik
Olav/Olaf
Martin
Inge (Should be removed from the female list)
Andreas
Kjell
Anders
Tor
Bjørn/Björn
Sven
Jon
Rune (I just had to add my own name ;) )

Female:
Anne/Anna
Lise
Emma
Kari/Karin
Eva
Astrid
Berit
Ingrid
Sara
Ida
Eli
Tove
Liv
Unni

Lastname:
Berg (should be removed from male firstname list)
Lie
Aas
Skog
Lund
Haugen
Vik
Hagen
Lund
Title: Names
Post by: Hoehrer on May 19, 2006, 04:12:11 pm
@rune: Thanks for the hint. I'll add those changes as soon as i have some extra spare-time again.

Werner
Title: Names
Post by: Gill_Bates on May 25, 2006, 10:59:23 pm
There was an application written by someone I know, that created names according to nationality. It was free of charge and supposed to be used as a tool for gamers.

The name generator (if that was what it was called) was written by Alexeei Khrakov working under the name "Ambulocetus" (who also wrote a decent 2d space shooting game called U-Space that was discontinued).

It is hosted at:

http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?15000000036610

for example.

It has a lot of possible names for a very large number of nationalities.
Title: Names
Post by: altugi on May 30, 2006, 01:39:48 am
Quote from: "BTAxis"
Nobody wants to use Turkish soldiers. It's a pain to model all the moustaches.



Quote from: "XCOMTurcocalypse"
:?:  :?

HESITANT EDIT:I noticed that you are from Holland.The Turks over there are guys possess the least level of education,and culture of our country.They got there because most of them were useless here,and unemployed.

I trust every "uneducated" population class on earth can wake an unpleasant opinion in the country they have emigrated.

In short.They are not the real Turks.And I hope I'm not labeled as a racist pig........sieg heil :)




As I was reading through all the forums today, to catch up with what has been done in the past, I tossed at this conversation. I was just wondering if you guys were kidding here...
Title: Names
Post by: BTAxis on May 30, 2006, 11:43:45 am
Sure we were. Though there would be people here who wouldn't be. Some people here can't cope with the multicultural society, and turn racist (though it's more of an anti-islam sentiment than racism). It's becoming a big problem.
Title: Names
Post by: Mattn on May 30, 2006, 11:49:15 am
what do you mean with "here"?
Title: Names
Post by: BTAxis on May 30, 2006, 11:53:40 am
The Netherlands. Germany and Belgium are having similar problems, though.
Title: Names
Post by: altugi on May 30, 2006, 12:35:50 pm
Quote from: "Mattn"
what do you mean with "here"?


I meant "in this conversation"... not a particular place or location.
Title: Names
Post by: altugi on May 30, 2006, 12:45:59 pm
Maybe you like the sounding of the names below... however, many of them dont make you think of a country I guess. This makes them rather sound like phantasy names. I think its better when names do remind a bit of the stereotypes that the countries are associated with. Like scandinavian names make us think of vikings, german names remind a bit of discipline and strenght etc... so I dont really insist that these names here should be used... they should only if they sound a bit "warrior"-like...

Male
-------
Alpagu
Batu
Baran
Djengis
Dede
Erol
Firat - Euphrat
Hakan
Irmak
Kutadgu
Levent
Metin
Rupen
Sergen
Tolga
Uygur


Female
--------
Alev
Berfin
Czisil
Defne
Didjle - Tigris
Azra
Fiyal
Hülya
Imge
Kayra
Leyla
Mavi


Last Names
-------------
Akar
Balamir
Ceylan
Dadash
Dursun
Erberk
Faruk
Has
Incesu
Kazak
Leman
Mansur
Terziyan
Zana

Btw, most of these  names are turkish, some even old turkish from the ninth and tenth centuries, for exapmle Alpagu and Kutadgu.  But there are also a few kurdish and armenian names, like Baran, Berfin and Rupen. Defne is the turkish of Daphne, the daughter of goddess Demeter from the Greek Pantheon. And we have also plenty of Persian and Arab names, like Leyla, Hülya and Fiyal. Finally Levent is actually from the Italian Levant, often used in Venedik to name foreign staff members on their ships.
Title: Names
Post by: Devil on January 06, 2007, 10:19:30 pm
The names used in Russia:

Male:
Alexander (Александр)
Alexey (Алексей)
Andrey (Андрей)
Anton (Антон)
Arcady (Аркадий)
Artem (Артём)
Bogdan (Богдан)
Boris (Борис)
Vadim (Вадим)
Valentine (Валентин)
Valery (Валерий)
Vasily (Василий)
Victor (Виктор)
Vitaly (Виталий)
Vladimir (Владимир)
Vyacheslav (Вячеслав)
Gennady (Геннадий)
George (Георгий)
Grigory (Григорий)
Daniel (Даниил)
Denis (Денис)
Dmitry (Дмитрий)
Evgenie (Евгений)
Egor (Егор)
Ivan (Иван)
Igor (Игорь)
Ilya (Илья)
Cyril (Кирилл)
Konstantin (Константин)
Leonid (Леонид)
Maxim (Максим)
Michael (Михаил)
Nikita (Никита)
Nikolay (Николай)
Oleg (Олег)
Paul (Павел)
Peter (Пётр)
Roman (Роман)
Simeon (Семён)
Sergey (Сергей)
Stepan (Степан)
Feodor (Фёдор)
Felix (Феликс)
Phillip (Филипп)
Edward (Эдуард)
Jury (Юрий)
Jaroslav (Ярослав)

Female:
Alexandra (Александра)
Alain (Алёна)
Anastasia (Анастасия)
Anna (Анна)
Valeria (Валерия)
Vera (Вера)
Veronica (Вероника)
Victoria (Виктория)
Galina (Галина)
Darya (Дарья)
Evgenia (Евгения)
Ekaterina (Екатерина)
Elena (Елена)
Zynaida (Зинаида)
Inna (Инна)
Irina (Ирина)
Carina (Карина)
Xenia (Ксения)
Lyudmila (Людмила)
Marina (Марина)
Nina (Нина)
Oksana (Оксана)
Olesya (Олеся)
Olga (Олеся)
Rita (Рита)
Tamara (Тамара)
Tatyana (Татьяна)
Julia (Юлия)
Yana (Яна)
Jaroslava (Ярослава)
Title: Names
Post by: Getix on April 02, 2007, 12:45:41 pm
Quote

These are mostly italian names, in my opinion:
Quote:

Stefanie
Sandra
Ilona
Martina
Lorena
Bianca
Carmella  


Some of those are wrong!  :shock:

Ilona is not italian :P (she's an Hungarian pornstar famous in Italy, Ilona Staller :P)

Carmela, with one L.

Bianca was used until the 1950.. Same for Sandra (which is, generally, a shorter way to call an Alessandra).

Some male name (common names):

Marco
Stefano
Gianluca
Luca
Massimo
Michele
Davide
Andrea
Antonio
Mario
Alessandro


Some female name (common names)

Alessandra
Giovanna
Francesca
Susanna
Federica
Ilaria
Eleonora
Elena
Alice
Monica
Silvia
Stefania