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Hell-Fire:
Hello,

Sorry if this is a repeat, but I did try to search to see if anyone else posted this.  What I want to state is, why are our soldiers so incompetent when firing their weapons.  Seriously, how is it that a soldier firing his weapon, is able to shoot his fellow member when aiming at an alien?  There have been numerous missions where the wounds my soldiers receive aren't from the aliens, but from their own team mates.

I've played various games, UFO Aftermath/Aftershock/Afterlight, etc, and pretty much if they can't shoot without hitting their team member, they don't fire.  Also the fact, I've had members with 95% chance to hit its target and yet, they still hit their own team member.

I've fired weapons, from pistols, rifles, and automatic rifles, and I'm able to shoot around obstacles without hitting them or just don't take the shot.  Star Wars stormtroopers are have more common sense and dexterity to not hit their own members, yet the Phalanx team members seem to have no problem shooting their own team mates.

The only time they are able to shoot without hitting their team mates is when they fire during their reaction time.  But seriously, when I select a soldier, then its target and have a high percentage chance to hit, I seem to hit my own team mate that is a mere few feet/meters from me.  If you can't fire and not hit your team member which is next to you, then sheesh you shouldn't have a weapon in the first place.

MonkeyHead:
If you are shooting, and the aiming line has gone red, then you only have yourself to blame. If it has not, then there might be a number of other factors at play. I have managed to hit my own troops that are in front of me and one square to the side with weapons with a high spread carried by soldiers with no so good accuracy while disembarking my dropship - shotgun + plasma blaster are the worst offenders, but I have managed it with any weapon with full auto or area of effect. The reaction fire not hitting is AFAIK a function of the reaction fire checks. I agree its not great that this occurs, but it is really not that hard to not so it - are you really keeping all your soldiers so close together for enough time that this is constantly an issue? This will probably make the aliens job so much easier. I put at least a 1-tile space between all my soldiers when on the move, and that was before I ever found them accidentally hitting each other.

DarkRain:
When you are in control, the game won't ever stop you from shooting anything (as long as the weapon is researched and you have ammo and TUs) ̣— you can even actively target and shoot your own troops — it's up to you to evaluate the risks and decide to take them, or not; reaction fire is obviously different, because you are *not* in control, so the game has to be on the cautious side in order to not screw the player up, but it can still happen that reaction fire hits friendly troops (or civilians) it just isn't as likely.

Grug:

--- Quote from: DarkRain on April 27, 2014, 10:19:11 pm ---When you are in control, the game won't ever stop you from shooting anything

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Sure, of course... but I think the incidence of soldiers hitting other soldiers is still too high. If they are elite troops like they are meant to be then when shooting past a fellow soldier (with a green line shot) the chance of hitting the soldier should be the exception, not the rule.

I agree that certain weapons have a wider spread and therefore will have a larger chance to hit something outside the direct aim, but it seems like the accuracy is too loose for relatively accurate weapons like the assault rifle.

Noordung:
played a lot of mssions and i think i only hit my soliders one or two times. and another two times civilians. so i dont think this is a problem. but its all about how you deploy your soliders.

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