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Ufanatic:
Hey guys.

After picking up my 2,5dev campaign with the latest version (just couldnt wait for final release anymore hehehe), I finally have to ask these questions:

How is the consumption of battlefield-"consumables" (i.e. grenades, reloads) calculated?
Is the item-counter in the homebase of the dropship always up to date, even if the dropship is still on its way back to base?

I have been trying to track it but just cant really wrap my head around it.
E.g. ... :
If a soldier dumps 50% of his ammo-cartridge into Aliens during the mission, will he use up a whole cartridge?
If a soldier reloads once (and thus definitely uses a cartridge), will this be shown in the base-buy/sell-menu right after the mission even if the ship is still on its way back?
If my crew is on its way to a mission and I decide to sell all my grenades in the homebase, will they be stuck without any grenades?

It gets especially complicated when you do two missions in a row with the same dropship. Funny enough, even if the soldiers have used items, their original loadout will still be 100% present at the beginning of the 2nd mission.
How is this handled?


While I am at it, I might as well ask a similar set of questions concerning xp-gain:
Is this immediate, meaning in the very moment of action during a mission? Or does xp-gain set in when the mission is over? Or when the crew has returned to base? ...
And also: Are xp-points and kills from the two missions added up or is it just the last mission that contributes to the xp-gain?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

H-Hour:
I can only answer the last one. Soldiers gain xp at the end of a mission. You can see any rank gains in the geoscape log. Therefore, multiple missions in a ssingle trip will all count.

jcjordan:
I can say from my experience that on ammo usage, there's a couple of things that happen. I can say that yes sometimes when you partially use a magazine, when you get back to base you've lost a whole ie say before you've got 20 clips at base then go on a mission & only shoot one bullet, you might find that you then have 19 other times you will still have 20. I assume there might be some kind of random roll of the die to see if you lose one or not. You will only see these changes once the transport has landed back at the base not before.

As to selling everything while on a mission, I've never done that so can't say but you can always experiment to see what happens since we're all beta testers of the program in a sense. I would think logically it should work that you could only sell that which is left over from what is on the mission.

One thing I noticed in 2.4dev IIRC when doing multiple missions before returning is that weapons would move around to other soldiers instead of staying as I set them. Not sure if this behavior is still in 2.5dev as I don't do things that way as missions seem to be more spread out rather than having numerous multiple missions in same area.

Ufanatic:


--- Quote from: H-Hour on September 24, 2013, 10:39:11 pm ---I can only answer the last one. Soldiers gain xp at the end of a mission. You can see any rank gains in the geoscape log. Therefore, multiple missions in a ssingle trip will all count.

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Ah yeah. You're right ... the rankups show immediately in the geoscape-log. Thanks.


--- Quote from: jcjordan on September 24, 2013, 11:30:33 pm ---... only shoot one bullet, you might find that you then have 19 other times you will still have 20. ...

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Exactly the type of randomness I am talking about.
About selling everything while on a mission: Will try that next time I am on the hunt.  ;)

DarkRain:
From what I remember (form having worked with that part of the code in the past):

Actually you don't lose partially used magazines, any remaining shots are stored as 'loose ammo' in the base, that's the reason sometimes you seem to 'lose' partially used clips and sometimes you seem to keep them, if after the mission the number of 'loose shots' is enough to complete the magazine then the game does so (it might even seem to "merge" partially used clips to form whole ones), if there isn't enough 'loose ammo' to form a full magazine, then the partially used clips are removed, but the remaining shots are stored and lie in wait, till there's enough to complete one (or more) clips

AFAIR the above applies also when you reload during the mission, if the replaced magazine had any remaining shots they are stored, and the game tries to form complete clips back at the base

Finally, the game updates the whole base inventory at the beginning of a mission, that's the reason the soldiers are restocked if you do several missions in a row (as long as there's still enough ammo at the base), that is a known bug, and AFAIR that should indeed cause your soldiers to lose all their ammo if you for some reason sell all your ammo while they are mid flight, but do share the result of your experiments if you actually test it

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