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Alien Capture

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Xeinar:
Ok, I've got an update. I just stunned an alien, and this time I checked in the base as soon as the dropship came back: the live alien is in the containment area (and I just startedthe research). Usually I wait for another research to finish before checking for the live alien, so now I'm guessing if after sometime the alien dies in the containment anyway.

Ah, by the way: yes, I've researched the breathing device, and only after the stun rod was available.

Anarch Cassius:
I think they die if you bring them in WITHOUT the breathing tech (technically possible, I've stunned aliens without using specialized equipment, it's some kind of crit or armor or morale thing). Mine have been alive for months, they just sit and stare at the walls while we try to teach them intelligence again.

I'm still wondering about these gas grenades. They get mentioned in game and you can see them in MP but none are actually available.

CriticalFumble:
I saw something like this in 2.4 using the stun rod as well.  My personal experience was:

-Research stun rods.
-Read the research report, noticed that it was supposed to be a two handed weapon. 
-Made one and fixed a soldier load out for alien capture. 
-In battle realized that my soldier could use the stun fire modes with his pistol still in the other hand. 
-Tried it, result: "alien was stunned".
-Checked containment after the dropship returned, contents: none.
-Wave hands in the air in furry. 
-Try again, see previous three steps. 
-Chucked stun rod in storage where it collected dust. 
-Thought about it for a while, tired again without anything in the soldier's other hand. 
-"alien was stunned"
-Checked containment after the dropship returned, contents: DING! "You've got live alien!"

Maybe the stun rod should have whatever makes rifles, ect, unusable while something is in the other hand?

DarkRain:

--- Quote from: Anarch Cassius on November 06, 2012, 01:39:36 am ---I think they die if you bring them in WITHOUT the breathing tech (technically possible, I've stunned aliens without using specialized equipment, it's some kind of crit or armor or morale thing).

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Indeed they'll die if you don't research the breathing apparatus, as for stunning aliens with normal weapons, must be the crashed UFOs, some aliens will spawn with normal and/or stun damage, shooting them might cause them to fall unconscious.


--- Quote ---I'm still wondering about these gas grenades. They get mentioned in game and you can see them in MP but none are actually available.

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There are gas grenades, but they are later tech.


--- Quote from: CriticalFumble on November 06, 2012, 03:55:16 am ----Wave hands in the air in furry.

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??? :o

Anarch Cassius:

--- Quote ----In battle realized that my soldier could use the stun fire modes with his pistol still in the other hand. 
...
Maybe the stun rod should have whatever makes rifles, ect, unusable while something is in the other hand?

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Both are true. There are two things about holding a weapon, does it need two hands to hold (rocket launcher, some heavy weapons) and does it need two hands to use (yes for rifles and such, no for pistols, medkits, grenades and knives).

So being able to use it with a pistol is a feature of the rod and pistol, not a bug and you would be unable to fire a held rifle with the rod out.

I've brought in all my aliens with something held in main hand. I can think of two things that might have happened to you: A) You selected cancel instead of a base to send aliens to. Also I think they are transported by shipping like transfers and not with the dropship. B) The alien you stunned died before the battle ended or woke up and got killed. You can prevent both by using Heal (to stop any bleeding) and Stimulants which are actually Sedatives when used on enemies and have the opposite effect... assuming that part is implemented yet.

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