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Offline Valis

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2009, 11:04:11 am »
But that better armour would have to be found by the victorious PHALANX soldiers, then could be researched and then produced. This would have a too big game inpact so armour changes [super armour] is probably out of the question.

Mutations for that matter are probably on the TO DO list. Maybe not as mutations but if the soldiers will have implants then they will have some base to be researched on. Such mutated specimen of aliens could very be such base for those human-machine upgrades.

Offline Chriswriter90

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 05:36:22 pm »
The Commanding Officer of an alien raid would probably just have better stats.

They could probably be the first aliens to be encountered using "Medium Alien armor"

Maybe the first aliens equipped with Particle Beam Weapons.

But I'm not really into the idea of Super Aliens or Mission Commanders.

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2009, 06:29:16 am »
Whether or not that better armor would have an impact on the game is moot. If the only difference between the normal and super version is that the super version is just a heftier suit then the earthers would not learn much beyond the fact that the aliens have certain individuals, probably leaders who get to wear enhanced suits which are just beefed up versions of the standard armor.


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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2009, 09:59:29 pm »
Just want to bring in a small idea, for the sake of discussion, not really meant as "implement it".
But it could be a nice side plot within the bigger campaign if the alien dropped a "unique" alien... this could be a big beast which is just tough, or it could be a smarter alien which would be hard to catch but could appear in certain missions (and you would have to use some kind of ambush or similar to snipe him, because this alien is cowardly and elusive)... Here I really would mean only as a side plot - i dont think aliens should ever work like the final-bosses, the enemies like in ... Diablo 2 or something.... but I still like the prinicple idea that aliens are not always like other aliens ;)

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 02:21:20 am »
We could turn into another tech sub-tree. You first have to research alien light armor to get to medium and then on to heavy, so that if you managed to take down a boss with heavy armor, but havent found light armor, theres nothing you can do with that armor until a later point in the game.

I persionally really like the ideas of bosses or field commanders, though they shouldnt be on every mission. And it would be easy to make them stand out, if thats what we are aiming for (thought I think it would be a much better idea if the "commander" blended in with the rest of the aliens) by simply making it a different size along with different textures, beyond color changes. Put some markings on its head, some decorations on its clothing/armor. When we are just playing with images, we just need someone with talent to add the small changes

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2009, 09:15:12 pm »
I once fought an ortnok that took 2 point blank riot shotgun blasts (flechette shells) and then 2 laser rifle shots.




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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 07:32:13 pm »
Actually, there really isn't any need to reskin or recolor the aliens.  Why would better aliens look any different if they have a hive mind?  They don't need to differentiate themselves because the hive mind would automatically provide them with information.  Tactically, it's also a stupid idea to mark out your commanders so that enemy troops have an easier time identifying who to shoot first.  They're aliens, "psychic signatures/profiles" would more likely be used than appearance to tell them apart.  In X-com, you could only tell the aliens commanders apart from the regulars by location (the commanders would be in the base or ship command center).  Other than that, they looked exactly the same.

Plus, it's scarier if the "super-aliens" look exactly the same as the regular aliens...

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2009, 06:17:56 am »
Actually, there really isn't any need to reskin or recolor the aliens.  Why would better aliens look any different if they have a hive mind?  They don't need to differentiate themselves because the hive mind would automatically provide them with information.  Tactically, it's also a stupid idea to mark out your commanders so that enemy troops have an easier time identifying who to shoot first.  They're aliens, "psychic signatures/profiles" would more likely be used than appearance to tell them apart.  In X-com, you could only tell the aliens commanders apart from the regulars by location (the commanders would be in the base or ship command center).  Other than that, they looked exactly the same.

Plus, it's scarier if the "super-aliens" look exactly the same as the regular aliens...

Agree with slothlord.... imagine that the "super-aliens" have triple the time units,... It can move fast like hell. Fire his plasma canon....6 times in a row....  FUN!!!

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2009, 06:15:22 am »
Agree with slothlord.... imagine that the "super-aliens" have triple the time units,... It can move fast like hell. Fire his plasma canon....6 times in a row....  FUN!!!

WOW! That = would be pure madness! *Shudders*

I would probably lob 4 grenades and finish up with a rocket launcher if such a maniac is on the loose.

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Re: Super-aliens or Alien heroes
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2009, 06:31:27 am »
Well, if they all had the exact same model, any of them could be such maniac, so u would have to overkill ALL of them to make sure. CARNAGE!!!

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2009, 07:01:04 am »
Well, if they all had the exact same model, any of them could be such maniac, so u would have to overkill ALL of them to make sure. CARNAGE!!!

*shudders*. No, wait, STOP! Lets not think of such things.... aliens are just as killable..... rmbr the original concept. :P