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Winter:
--- Quote from: TrashMan on August 06, 2008, 09:19:03 pm ---ERm...this isn't the old model.
It's a new one, but uses the same central hull shape as the old one.
This one actually has WINGS to fly in atmosphere. It's a in-atmosphere craft inspired a bit by the Blackbird.
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It's not enough just to have wings, the engines are located on the weakest part of the wings and in a way that maximises the drag they produce. They would rip the craft to pieces trying to get off the ground. The squarely angled nose would also produce lots of drag, causing extra stress on the airframe and limiting speed.
The only way I could see this thing working in UFO:AI is as a UAV, with the engines moved closer to the central body and the cockpit removed.
Regards,
Winter
TrashMan:
--- Quote ---It's not enough just to have wings, the engines are located on the weakest part of the wings and in a way that maximises the drag they produce. They would rip the craft to pieces trying to get off the ground. The squarely angled nose would also produce lots of drag, causing extra stress on the airframe and limiting speed.
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Apparently, some of the people that made real-life working planes haven't partaken of your wisdom. I'm surprised their planes fly.
Winter:
--- Quote from: TrashMan on August 06, 2008, 11:28:06 pm ---Apparently, some of the people that made real-life working planes haven't partaken of your wisdom. I'm surprised their planes fly.
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Wow, y'know, I didn't think the Osprey had jet engines that drove it at Mach 3+. I wonder what would happen to it if it did.
Never mind the fact that its wing design is massively reinforced and completely different from your craft.
Regards,
Winter
PS. The Osprey is also an unreliable deathtrap known for going down and killing everyone on board. Not the best example of a well-designed aircraft.
TrashMan:
But also not the only design that's a bit weird or has engines that are placed on wings. The F-117 needs special electronics to keep it in air. The blackbird has eninges on the wings and it's as fast as hell.
I would appreciate if you would not presume to tell me how reinforced/strong the wings on craft I designed are. Last I checked you were not a certified aircraft engineer.
If you don't like it, just say you don't like it - I won't mind. Say it sucks - I won't mind. Say it's the ugliest thing you've ever seen - I won't mind.
What I do mind is when you throw some questionable quasi-scientific reasons with little to no real basis.
Winter:
--- Quote from: TrashMan on August 07, 2008, 10:57:54 am ---But also not the only design that's a bit weird or has engines that are placed on wings. The F-117 needs special electronics to keep it in air. The blackbird has eninges on the wings and it's as fast as hell.
I would appreciate if you would not presume to tell me how reinforced/strong the wings on craft I designed are. Last I checked you were not a certified aircraft engineer.
If you don't like it, just say you don't like it - I won't mind. Say it sucks - I won't mind. Say it's the ugliest thing you've ever seen - I won't mind.
What I do mind is when you throw some questionable quasi-scientific reasons with little to no real basis.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg
Look at the size and configuration of those engine mounts. For one they're not mounted square on paper-thin wings. The Blackbird is by no means comparable to what you produced, and just because you don't have a basic grasp of physics and material stresses doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:F-117_Nighthawk_Front.jpg
Wingtip-mounted engines on the F-117? No. They're inside the fuselage, where they can be hidden and where the structure of the craft is strongest.
In fact, let me just run this whole thing by my friend who is an actual aeroplane engineer. See what he says, eh?
Regards,
Winter
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