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Winter:

--- Quote from: Psawhn on February 29, 2008, 08:19:35 pm ---Edit: On the UGV pods, I always had in mind that they'd land with the aircraft and open up to allow the UGV to drive off. If it's dropped before landing, then there's the possibility of damaging the UGV from the fall or from the dropship landing on it.
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Same reason why tanks and troops get air-dropped in the real world, really.



--- Quote ---It also wouldn't need communication gear: the hardpoint would transfer all applicable telemetry to/from the UGV/Pod/Dropship.

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And how does that remove the need for communications gear inside the UGV . . . ? The UGV still gets deployed, and it isn't attached by wire . . .

Regards,
Winter

Starship_Yard:

--- Quote from: Winter on February 29, 2008, 11:52:43 pm ---Same reason why tanks and troops get air-dropped in the real world, really.

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They get dropped right now from high altitude as we don't have the capability to deliver them via a long range VTOL or STOVL platform.  And even then, only light equipment gets airdropped as there is about a 16-20 tonne limit to current air drop technology.  Most tracked vehicles are way above this limit.  Other than excercises there is unlikely to ever be a massive parachute air assault like WWII in the future.  Just too much risk from most enemy air defenses and danger of enemy forces attacking before the landing force is able to orient and organize itself.

As for helicopter delivery, the payload is smaller yet, more like about 12 tonnes for the CH-53G's, and I think about 8 for the Chinooks.

Brett

Winter:

--- Quote from: Starship_Yard on March 02, 2008, 04:14:06 am ---They get dropped right now from high altitude as we don't have the capability to deliver them via a long range VTOL or STOVL platform.
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. . . That's not the reasoning behind HALO drops. They're mainly for staying out of SAM range, commonly used in enemy territory where anti-air fire would present a threat to the dropship and cargo.

Any area with alien activity in it can be classified as enemy territory for the duration, because the aliens will always be there before PHALANX. Then, taking into account the fact that the vast majority of missions will take place in areas with lots of cover, low-altitude drops would be perfectly feasible with parachutes or other deceleration mechanisms (disposable landing thrusters, for example, or even high-tech impact protection bags).



--- Quote ---And even then, only light equipment gets airdropped as there is about a 16-20 tonne limit to current air drop technology.  Most tracked vehicles are way above this limit.
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And how would that be a problem for PHALANX UGVs in 2084, the very largest of which would be about the size of a very small automobile?

Regards,
Winter

pattex25:
Is this a sleek (??) alien needler?



Currently it's neither UV-mapped nor textured, but if someone tells me how to do this, then I could try myself...
The blob in the rear part is the magazine. It should look a bit like a ball of wool, but instead of wool, it's the needles. they get unrolled, cut and charged (and fired) within the gun, which results in a very large ammo capacity... (Hope this fits the needed weapon!)


Use it if you like it!
comment if you feel like it!


edit: the license is GPL or CC... choose the one you like best...

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Winter:

--- Quote from: pattex25 on March 03, 2008, 06:58:06 pm ---The blob in the rear part is the magazine. It should look a bit like a ball of wool, but instead of wool, it's the needles. they get unrolled, cut and charged (and fired) within the gun, which results in a very large ammo capacity... (Hope this fits the needed weapon!)
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That's horrendously overcomplicated for a battlefield weapon, with way too many places where something could break. It's also not a good place for a magazine either, because you couldn't possibly reach it without having to drop your weapon. A drum of needles somewhere along the body of the weapon would be better.

Forgetting the bulb for a second, the design isn't bad, I have no complaints. I don't see where you could put a proper magazine on it though.

Regards,
Winter

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