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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2009, 01:32:07 am »
I like your Asian and African flags, but the Middle-East flag doesn't do anything for me. It's too busy and fragmented.

The flags aren't set in stone yet, so if you really think you can improve on what we've got then you're quite welcome. The Asian one is definitely better than what we had before so I wouldn't mind replacing that one. The African one is a toss-up, I also quite like the old one.

Our need for revamped GUI artwork is also quite pressing, do you think there's anything you could do on that score?

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2009, 07:31:06 am »
our other flag images are released under "GNU General Public License 2.0 or later" is that ok for you, too?

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2009, 10:37:12 am »
I like your Asian and African flags, but the Middle-East flag doesn't do anything for me. It's too busy and fragmented.

The flags aren't set in stone yet, so if you really think you can improve on what we've got then you're quite welcome. The Asian one is definitely better than what we had before so I wouldn't mind replacing that one. The African one is a toss-up, I also quite like the old one.

Our need for revamped GUI artwork is also quite pressing, do you think there's anything you could do on that score?

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Winter
As I said elsewhere, the flags were done before I knew what the others looked like. I'm partial to the old African flag as well, as it uses pretty much the same concept as mine.

Not sure about the GUI, what exactly are you looking for in that regard.
our other flag images are released under "GNU General Public License 2.0 or later" is that ok for you, too?
No problem on my behalf.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2009, 10:16:12 pm »
Pitching a couple more flags:

Revolutionary Countries: Used the colors of the flag of Gran Colombia, the country the liberator of the Spanish colonies in South America, Simon Bolivar, ruled. Hugo Chavez, for instance, sees his socialist revolution as a continuation of Bolivar's struggle, and I'm postulating so would the modern revolutionary countries (besides incorporating former non-Spanish colonies).

Commonwealth of Oceania: I tried something that moved away from the seven pointed star, as that's largely exclusively Australian. The globe is from the original commonwealth flag, as is the blue partial circle, which represents the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The southern cross gets used by a couple other Oceanian flags, so I included that as well.

Greater European Union: I basically used the same design as the previous one except that the stars are centered again and the colors are the official ones, because the others were off, as someone noticed.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2009, 12:00:41 am »
Hi UM, here's my take on your new flags:

Revolutionary Countries: Used the colors of the flag of Gran Colombia, the country the liberator of the Spanish colonies in South America, Simon Bolivar, ruled. Hugo Chavez, for instance, sees his socialist revolution as a continuation of Bolivar's struggle, and I'm postulating so would the modern revolutionary countries (besides incorporating former non-Spanish colonies).

I like it, but it's too busy and lacks the simple punchiness of the old flag. I think you'd have a tough time improving on that design.


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Commonwealth of Oceania: I tried something that moved away from the seven pointed star, as that's largely exclusively Australian. The globe is from the original commonwealth flag, as is the blue partial circle, which represents the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The southern cross gets used by a couple other Oceanian flags, so I included that as well.

This is nice, I approve.


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Greater European Union: I basically used the same design as the previous one except that the stars are centered again and the colors are the official ones, because the others were off, as someone noticed.

Good improvement, however I liked the design slightly off-centre as most of the other flags have centred designs. Can you move it slightly to the left?

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2009, 12:43:44 pm »
Current EU flag is centred. Uncentred it make no sens.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2009, 07:53:15 pm »
UlteriorMotives, can you re-render your flags in 485x300? That's the resolution of the flags we currently use.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2009, 04:16:20 pm »
UlteriorMotives, can you re-render your flags in 485x300? That's the resolution of the flags we currently use.
Sure, though it'll break my heart to use a ratio other than 2:3 =P

You want all of them or just the ones that have been "approved"?

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2009, 05:24:03 pm »
All of them, might as well.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2009, 11:49:14 am »
I like it, but it's too busy and lacks the simple punchiness of the old flag. I think you'd have a tough time improving on that design.

The original is a pretty slick design. My only real beef with it is that it's essentially a slightly modified Surinamese (Surinaman?) flag, and Suriname is perhaps even less Latin American than the United States. If that design gets kept, I wanted a more representative design to at least have been considered.

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Good improvement, however I liked the design slightly off-centre as most of the other flags have centred designs. Can you move it slightly to the left?

I'd strongly recommend changing the EU flag as little as possible, seeing as it's legally required to stay the same. Adding a star reflects its name as the Greater European Union, though in earnest, I doubt there's real concern from the EU for using the original design:

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Use by third parties

The European emblem may be used only if:

  • there is no likelihood of the user of the emblem being confused with the European Community or the Council of Europe;
  • the emblem is not used in connection with objectives or activities which are incompatible with the aims and principles of the European Community or of the Council of Europe.

Permission to use the European emblem does not confer on those to whom it is granted any right of exclusive use, nor does it allow them to appropriate the emblem or any similar trademark or logo, either by registration or any other means. Each case will be examined individually to ascertain whether it satisfies the criteria set out above. This will be unlikely in a commercial context if the European emblem is used in conjunction with a company's own logo, name or trade mark.
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That said, I did tweak it and made off center version as well.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2009, 11:55:20 am »
I've worked up new designs for the UA and Russia as well:

Russia: Essentially a variation of the current Presidential flag with proper colors. Removed symbols of Czarist authority (as well as the St. George part of the coat of arms) mainly because it would have been more work. Somehow I felt just adding a star was too simple.

United America: The old design felt more fused than united. Used an eagle to reflect the union between the US and Mexico. The colors of the banner at the bottom reflect the national colors of the member nations. The UA/AU symbol is meant to reflect the multilinguality of the UA, since I assume Spanish (and possibly French) would be recognized languages as well, which would change the order of the letters.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2009, 11:56:03 am »
And the Oceanian flag.

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2009, 11:58:45 am »
Asia, Africa, Oceania, Revolutionary and both European flags have been committed to the SVN repository.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 12:01:17 pm by BTAxis »

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2009, 12:55:13 pm »
I've worked up new designs for the UA and Russia as well:

Russia: Essentially a variation of the current Presidential flag with proper colors. Removed symbols of Czarist authority (as well as the St. George part of the coat of arms) mainly because it would have been more work. Somehow I felt just adding a star was too simple.

United America: The old design felt more fused than united. Used an eagle to reflect the union between the US and Mexico. The colors of the banner at the bottom reflect the national colors of the member nations. The UA/AU symbol is meant to reflect the multilinguality of the UA, since I assume Spanish (and possibly French) would be recognized languages as well, which would change the order of the letters.

Both flags are top notch, thumbs up, no complaints from me whatsoever!

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Winter

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Re: various Visual Identities make a world convincing
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2009, 01:06:48 pm »
Committed.