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Machine gun / Autocannon Discussion
DaCheetah:
I've been using the MG, it works great if you are crouched. I gave it to a guy with low Strength but high heavy weapons... now he's like an assault troop... DEADLY reaction fire, great for covering alleys and windows.
Woreczko:
--- Quote from: Surrealistik on February 05, 2008, 03:40:59 am ---The machine gun is one weapon I've changed dramatically after an extensive series of tweaks and playtesting. Deadly accurate when crouched (most deployed machine guns are highly accurate), deadly inaccurate when standing, the 100 clip size it's supposed to have, with per bullet damage comparable to the assault rifle (it uses the same ammunition, and I don't see why it'd have less muzzle energy). I've also given it a 'spread' autofire mode that allows a soldier to sweep an area, and potentially kill multiple enemies. Thus far it works wonderfully in its intended role as support/suppression.
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Heh, I tweaked MG in quite a different way. MG in the game has no tripod, neither there is any option to deploy it, so I made it moderately accurate while standing and less so when crouching (from my experience it`s more difficult to use a heavy weapon while crouching than when standing up if it doesn`t have any tripod or similar device, as you can`t lean backwards very much, neither turn easily if situation demands it). To compensate it has a good fire of rate: 5 shots/12 TU and 20 shots/20 TU. However, just as you, I made it deal similar dmg/shot as assault rifle and increased magazine size to 100 as per ufopedia :)
Surrealistik:
--- Quote ---Heh, I tweaked MG in quite a different way. MG in the game has no tripod, neither there is any option to deploy it, so I made it moderately accurate while standing and less so when crouching (from my experience it`s more difficult to use a heavy weapon while crouching than when standing up if it doesn`t have any tripod or similar device, as you can`t lean backwards very much, neither turn easily if situation demands it). To compensate it has a good fire of rate: 5 shots/12 TU and 20 shots/20 TU. However, just as you, I made it deal similar dmg/shot as assault rifle and increased magazine size to 100 as per ufopedia
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Crouching is an abstraction for deployment, in so far as my interpretation of the machine gun is concerned (seeing as it is not actually an option, and crouching is the closest thing).
--- Quote ---I've been using the MG, it works great if you are crouched. I gave it to a guy with low Strength but high heavy weapons... now he's like an assault troop... DEADLY reaction fire, great for covering alleys and windows.
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SMG is superior in just about every way. Given the pitiful per bullet damage of the MG's individual shots, it doesnt even feature armour penetration as an advantage (unlike the assault rifle).
Opeth666:
I used the machine gun through most of the game, and prefer it over even the particle cannon. I find that starting out, 3 snipers, 3 machine gunners and 2 grenade launcher/rocket guys are a good mix. The only problem is that later in the game, the laser rifle is really good, but it requires assault skill and not heavy weapons. The heavy laser isn't nearly as good, and neither is the particle cannon due to high TU costs and low accuracy. The machine gun is fantastic in covering a team on reaction fire, as well.
Cutaway:
Before anyone starts, Project SALVO revealed that any hand-held multi barrel automatic firearm with the rifle calibre above 5.56mm or various Pistol/PDW rounds is STRICTLY UNSUITABLE for man-portable use.
If a hand-held multi barrel weapon comes to exist, It would at the most have 2/3 barrels which would be a quater/half the firepower of a Minigun(6,000RPM) and chambered in either 5.56mmNATO or the likes of various Pistol/PDW rounds. It would be in the form of a Rifle/Squad Automatic Weapon and no way a Gatling type weapon as this would be very bulky/ammo thirsty/clumbersome/hhard to maintain etc. Remember not to be under the impressions that "Hand-Held Miniguns" as seen in "Predator" and "T2JD" can be fired by a person. Even a "Macho Man" wouldnt be able to handle the recoil force of a Minigun as it is very powerful, Thats why Miniguns are strictly used as mounted weapons.
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