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Machine gun / Autocannon Discussion

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TrashMan:

--- Quote from: mattheus on February 04, 2008, 01:32:50 am ---But small caliber (5,56 or 7,62) minigun could be usable thing in heavy powerarmor if man in it weights three times as much as normal soldier. Such minigun's are used in transport helicopters as fire support weapons. Even giving machine gun fire while standing is unrealistic, machine gun should be fired in crouching mode or when laying down.

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It's no use. Winter hates the very idea of a minigun and since he believes it totally implausable (even with 2080 tech and alien tech) he won't allow it in his game. I already tried to convince him otherwise, but he has the final word in anything regarding UFO:AI (think of him as a mostly benevolent dictator).

DanielOR:
Please, please let us not start another discussion of miniguns - it has been beaten to death multiple times...

As for MG - I am with Opeth666 - I find MG useful from start to finish, almost.  Love that thing.  I replace them with heavy lasers, somewhat grudgingly, only because of the low spread.  However, considering numebr of rounds fired, the jury is still out. 

Btw, HL is the only weapon that needs more than 1 reloading on a typical mission.  That thing just goes through cartridges...

Cutaway:

--- Quote from: DanielOR on June 30, 2008, 06:03:46 pm ---Please, please let us not start another discussion of Miniguns - it has been beaten to death multiple times...

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Thats why either Nordenfelt/Bira/Gast action machine guns would be far more practical for a Man-Portable multi barrel firearm.

Nordenfelt machine gun


Nepalese 'Bira gun'.


WW1 German 'Gast gun'.


1957 Winchester-Olin 'Salvo Rifle'.


The "AO-63" assault rifle from the 1988 movie 'Red Scorpion'.


http://www.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCGI.exe?IDCFile=/spring/DETAILS.IDC,SPECIFIC=594,DATABASE=objects

sirg:

--- Quote from: Winter on February 04, 2008, 12:13:13 am ---Because the laws of physics say there is no possible way an autocannon/minigun will ever be an effective infantry weapon, unlike a good reliable machine gun.

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Yes, that it's true, but how about this - I fired a rocket at an alien wearing that improved armor, and it didn't kill him. Where were the laws of physics then?

Nevasith:
maybe it would resemble failure of rocket targeting system- if there is any installed- i mean, it is really difficult for a rocket to track a small moving object. Still if the rocket hits even close to the alien- even if he is not torn apart by the explosion, the shock should change him into bloody mass inside of armour

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