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2.2 Release: Dead Civilians count?

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Mattn:
we have the statistics, too

but the died-civilians-until-you've-lost-the-game is a fixed number

Psawhn:
I don't think that's quite a good idea, the way the game is set up currently. There are many maps where there is absolutely no way to save some civilians - they are quite out of range of PHALANX soldiers, and the aliens kill them on their first turn.

Obviously this puts the player on a timer, but I thought that's what infection spread is for? Something like this could cause players to chose to abstain from missions simply because of civilian deaths, or (if an abstained mission counts as full civilian deaths) make some games simply impossible to win - there would simply not be enough time to research the bare minimum of techs needed to finish the game before too many civilians die in missions.

Ibara:
I do not think it a good idea either.  I am playing a Standard Campaign and I have to win 40 battles before I researched "the Universal Serum" (quite middle in the mid-game, huh?).  A Standard Campaign only allows 40 dead civs, and I believe I lost more than 1 civ per battle====>means that I should have lost the game if the dead civ count was implemented. 

Instead of making it a short stop, I would recommend to put it in the formula of "Nation Happiness", on the assumption that govs are suppose to protect its citizens.  If you let too many of a nation's citizens die, the gov will get angrier with you.

Mattn:
the lost civs are only counted if you really lose a mission. and only in that case where you don't retry the mission. so 40 is quite high imo

this way you are loosing the game when you ignoring missions or repeatly lose missions. and i really think, that is this ok. you can't just ignore the attack sites and let the civs die - the world counts on you :-D

wastelandmerc:
Well I got small suggestion, you could make that this count slowly "fade away". For example: After 1 month of game time player loose one death of civilian (i player had 38 civilian dead on list, after moth it lowers to  37).
Would be this nice?

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