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regarding gatling/minigun
Nevasith:
THANKS FOR THIS PICTURE! Looks really great!
--- Quote ---Speaking of minigun size..This looks incredibly big and unwieldy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gau_17_7.62mm_minigun.jpg
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Take a look where and HOW it is mounted. Yep- you would have to carry a special heavy arm and 3/4 of the gun would be outside of the window or a hole acting like a big flag "hey here i am!" Notice the fire comming from barrels
It must look great at night. Especialy from a particle canon aiming system. Light support machine guns have special construction on barrel just to hide the fire which gives away your position. Do you really think that if it would make any sense military installations wouldnt have MG installed by default?
TrashMan:
You're saying plasma/particle and other normal humans weapons (assault rifles, machine guns, etc..) DON'T have a visible flash while shooting? Or a bullet trace visible at night?
Erm..one more thing..if you actually were planning on using a minigun, what makes you think you would be the one doing the hiding? :D
Speaking of which the gun itself is 16kg + ~10kg for ammo = 26kg. And we're down well below 30kg with still 80 years to go to UFO:AI timeline.
80 years..think about it. If you consider when the microgun was made that would mean almost 100 years from the microgun to UFO:AI time.
100 years. Can you even imagine the technical strides made in 100 years?
Just think what we had at the beginning of this century and what we have now. And then tell me in my face you really think it's impossible to fix some small technical problems in that time span.
Nevasith:
another reason to stay mobile. Plasma would give short burst of light. I have seen some bulets and most of them are quite invisible while in the air- i think the glowing ones are special kind that makes easier target aiming by alowing to track the bullet way.
Read about lasers in game- there is mentioned, that its beam is invisible and thusly we need to create special doctrine of combat with laser weapons- the bright beam is just a pleasant effect just as it is with most weapons ingame.
To the contrary an operating MG spits constant fire showing its position for as long as its working.
--- Quote ---Erm..one more thing..if you actually were planning on using a minigun, what makes you think you would be the one doing the hiding?
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There is no specific reason for that. Maybe except for some particle canons hidden in buildings and on the rooftops eager to blast heads off
Its always better to stay invisible- thats why we use cover and try to sneak and snipe the enemy- you cant aim what you cant see- elementary Watson That is also why humanity sends phalanx instead of nuking every attacked area
TrashMan:
Laser are invisible, yes. But plasma and particle beams? Normal human weaponry? No. Quite visible.
And there is also another maxim - if you can shoot me, I can shoot you. No matter which gun you use, you have to get out of cover to get a shot.
Also, aliens seem eager to duck for cover themselves when the shooting starts.
Nevasith:
normal weapons are mostly invisible- short moment of shooting is visible only in SOME weapons. Plasma is visible(probably as i havent seen any in real life yet) but now you are trying to tell me, that a lighter is just as visible as a torch- you are comparing a short flash of light to a constant light from barrels. Particles moving with near-the lighspeed shouldnt be visible as well- ~25 frames per second is enough to give a human an illusion of fluid picture, and aliens shouldnt perceive much faster.
--- Quote ---And there is also another maxim - if you can shoot me, I can shoot you. No matter which gun you use, you have to get out of cover to get a shot.
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I killed quite a lot of aliens with grenades by bouncing them from walls or blowing them near an open door.
Other way to get covered alien is to surround him and attack from behind. Or- take strong position put there few good soldiers on full reaction and wait until our covered fellow shows up
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